June 25, 20169 yr The call for a second referendum is a joke and insult to democracy. Can you imagine how pathetic our nation would look if a) We had one and b) it overturned this decision. Perhaps Germans would like to replay 66 world cup ??? Or a few other events ?
June 25, 20169 yr Can you imagine how pathetic our nation would look if a) We had one and b) it overturned this decision. I thought just having the referendum was pathetic. Perhaps Germans would like to replay 66 world cup ??? No way, we'd lose this time by more goals. (Posted in the true spirit of negativity. ) .
June 25, 20169 yr The logic being used would apply to every other election that has been held in this country. Has a general election ever been won by over 50%of the electorate, rather than those who voted?
June 25, 20169 yr This is typical of left wing politics. They are the most dangerous people on the planet, thinking that their minority ideals are above democracy. If you notice, it is the left wing groups who turn to violence when things don't go their way. I am not aware of any UKIP activists demonstrating violently on the streets, it is always some unwashed, matted haired bunch of left wing clowns that start kicking off in protest. It won't be long before they start committing criminal damage and assault in support of their desire to overturn the democracy of Thursday's decision.
June 25, 20169 yr I thought just having the referendum was pathetic . I don't know why, there was certainly an appetite for a referendum. Don't you think people should be allowed a democratic choice? I was quite prepared to accept an in vote if it happened and I said so before a single vote had been cast. Why can't people accept democracy?
June 25, 20169 yr Author Amazingly, or perhaps not, I,ve just been emailed to sign this antidemicratic petition... Perhaps we should start a petition to get antidemocratic petitions banned.?? Could take 50 years to get a decision..
June 25, 20169 yr Amazingly, or perhaps not, I,ve just been emailed to sign this antidemicratic petition... Perhaps we should start a petition to get antidemocratic petitions banned.?? Could take 50 years to get a decision.. If this wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable. What part of being out voted are people have difficulty with? That's how it works, we ask each person and go with the majority. I hope the government print the petition and use it as lavatory paper, because that is all that it is fit for.
June 25, 20169 yr Author Totally agree Tillson but I wonder if there,s rather more to this than meets the eye. Email I received moaned about unelected priminister and new (??) section of party negotiating our exit ? Mp,s generally wanted to remain, this BS is going to give them agenda to debate perhaps a mandate to change..ie ) have second referendum ??? We,ll see.
June 25, 20169 yr Totally agree Tillson but I wonder if there,s rather more to this than meets the eye. Email I received moaned about unelected priminister and new (??) section of party negotiating our exit ? Mp,s generally wanted to remain, this BS is going to give them agenda to debate perhaps a mandate to change..ie ) have second referendum ??? We,ll see. That thought has crossed my mind, particularly the fact that collectively the majority of MPs opinion on BREXIT is not aligned with that of the public. In parliament, we have an organisation carrying out the task of withdrawing from the EU under duress. This isn't a good basis for getting anything done. It won't surprise me to see dirty deals and more skulduggery in the coming weeks and months.
June 25, 20169 yr That thought has crossed my mind, particularly the fact that collectively the majority of MPs opinion on BREXIT is not aligned with that of the public. In parliament, we have an organisation carrying out the task of withdrawing from the EU under duress. This isn't a good basis for getting anything done. It won't surprise me to see dirty deals and more skulduggery in the coming weeks and months. Hopefully not, I don't agree with the demand for a second referendum, just as I didn't agree with the one we just had. Referenda aren't the way we govern this country, we elect governments to run the country. That's our democracy. .
June 25, 20169 yr Hopefully not, I don't agree with the demand for a second referendum, just as I didn't agree with the one we just had. Referenda aren't the way we govern this country, we elect governments to run the country. That's our democracy. . I think I can see what you are getting at here. David Cameron only promised the referendum in order to stem the flow of voters to UKIP, fearing that it would dilute the Conservative vote sufficiently to allow Labour / SNP in. For him, this has back-fired in a most spectacular fashion. Maybe the lesson is for political parties to promise and pledge only what they genuinely believe in and stand for. Not to be constantly shape-shifting in an effort to play the statistics.
June 26, 20169 yr This is typical of left wing politics. They are the most dangerous people on the planet, thinking that their minority ideals are above democracy. If you notice, it is the left wing groups who turn to violence when things don't go their way. I am not aware of any UKIP activists demonstrating violently on the streets, it is always some unwashed, matted haired bunch of left wing clowns that start kicking off in protest. It won't be long before they start committing criminal damage and assault in support of their desire to overturn the democracy of Thursday's decision. In case you missed it in the news - A Labour MP was just murdered > https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/18/thomas-mair-charged-with-of-mp-jo-cox
June 26, 20169 yr I think that for fundamental things like the EU membership a referendum is necessary. Otherwise, what is stop Nicola Sturgeon calling all Scottish MPs and MSPs together, making the proposal, getting a vote and declaring the Republic of Scotland?
June 27, 20169 yr Agree. In my opinion the Major government was wrong to ratify the Maastricht Treaty without a referendum. It affected the constitutional basis on which Parliament governs the country (by giving precedent to EU law) and so was beyond the competence of Parliament.
June 27, 20169 yr Author Talking of insult to democracy did anyone hear student on Tele...reckoned because his Gran was 80 (" and probably only 4 years to live") her vote should carry less importance than his at 18 with his entire life before him ??? What a git. Is this what stayers are lowering themselves to ??
June 27, 20169 yr What fun this referendum has been: plots, sub-plots and still more to come. It has attracted discussion, meetings of minds, unusual applications of statistics, dreams of Utopia, clerics spouting scripture and all manner of facial contortions by politicians attempting to appear sincere. What will the next referendum require of us? Perhaps we should return to buttoned flies - to zip or not to zip? Should the Highway code suggest we abandon left or right and just drive down the middle? And will the mighty intellect that decided we should have a referendum be rewarded with a Nobel Prize or just simple immortality? Keep the questions coming! Nurse, have I had my medication yet? Where's my biscuit? Tom
June 27, 20169 yr I am optimistic. I like the Norway model, with a bit more participation in scientific reasearch and pharmaceuticals. I also like to see Osborne running for PM's job. Edited June 27, 20169 yr by trex
June 27, 20169 yr The forces are gathering. They didn't get the result they wanted so have chucked their toys out of the pram and are plotting to overturn the result. Seems that people like Blair are even involved. I don't think he is a politician now is he. A lot of people voted for leave because they feel distanced from the political process. A rerun would hardly make them feel better about the situation.
June 27, 20169 yr I think we need a year for all Brexiters to see if their heart is still at the same place. would they vote with their wallet next time?
June 27, 20169 yr Give it a week or two and all the fuss will die down as something else comes along to take its place. Perhaps the Chilcott enquiry.
June 27, 20169 yr Trex Why assume that it is for the Brexiters to change their mind|? Perhaps the Remainers will.
June 27, 20169 yr I reckon a significant numbers will. The reality is that Brexit will not deliver much on promises made during the campaign. Gove and Johnson now say that they did not make any specific promise. That means they did not make any promise. People who expect changes won't see any change. Some won't bother to vote next time.
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