Import costs from EM3EV?

[Fordulike]

When I ordered a MAC kit form EM3EV a few years ago, I seem to remember they declared the quite expensive package at a lower cost. This saved me a boat load of import tax.

Was wondering if anyone had bought from them recently, anything over the £400 mark, and what import fees you ended up paying.

Don't we all love taxes..... NOT

 

[electric.mike]

This site may help,think they even charge duty on the insurance and transport costs.

http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/

 

[Fordulike]

This site may help,think they even charge duty on the insurance and transport costs.

http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/

Yeah Mike, I've used that site to calculate the worst cash scenario, but was more wondering if they still declare a much lower cost on the package, to save customers on import tax.. Nudge nudge wink wink

What I'm going for will conjour up fees of £200, and that really pisses me off.
Happy to give 200 quid to charity, but not the stinking tax man!

 

[amigafan2003]

Yeah Mike, I've used that site to calculate the worst cash scenario, but was more wondering if they still declare a much lower cost on the package, to save customers on import tax.. Nudge nudge wink wink

No they don't. If they did, and got caught, the couriers will refuse to accept shipments from them in the future.

What I'm going for will conjour up fees of £200, and that really pisses me off.
Happy to give 200 quid to charity, but not the stinking tax man!

Every time I've ordered from China in the last 18 months I've had to pay duty - I used to get away with it alot but 18 months ago HMRC deployed extra people into the transit depots to check everything from China. I sometimes get away with orders from the USA..

I don't actually mind paying the duty - it's the couriers "admin" fees I dislike.

What are you odering that generates £200 in duty? That's something like a $1500 order from EM3EV

 

[Fordulike]

No they don't. If they did, and got caught, the couriers will refuse to accept shipments from them in the future.



Every time I've ordered from China in the last 18 months I've had to pay duty - I used to get away with it alot but 18 months ago HMRC deployed extra people into the transit depots to check everything from China. I sometimes get away with orders from the USA..

I don't actually mind paying the duty - it's the couriers "admin" fees I dislike.

What are you odering that generates £200 in duty? That's something like a $1500 order from EM3EV

Bafang BBS02 48v 500w kit with Paul's 50v 24.8Ah (29E) triangle frame pack, hopefully. Still need to do a lot of research, same as I did for the MAC build.

Peeps might say, why a 24.8Ah pack, as the Bafang isn't that power hungry?
My last pack was a Ping 15Ah and I ended up charging that twice per day during Summer rides.
Bigger capacity means I'll only have to charge it the once.

 

[JohnCade]

It's not usually duty, it's the 20% VAT they are charging you. It's because it's not paid on exports that electronic stuff from the US seemed so cheap at one time. Plus they have local sales tax which adds to the cost there, but like VAT isn't paid on exports.

Customs started clamping down a couple of years ago because so many people were importing stuff and not paying the VAT, and until then I rarely paid it on anything. Now it's rare not to.

Making a false declaration on a customs form is a criminal offence and most won't do it anymore. It also makes it impossible to claim fully against insurance for loss if the declared value is lower than the actual loss value.

 

[D8ve]

Yeah Mike, I've used that
Happy to give 200 quid to charity, but not the stinking tax man!

Fordulike

Why should you not pay taxes. They pay for my grandmothers pension, hospital treatment etc.
I pay tax so do most honest men.
Why should you not pay?

 

[Fordulike]

Fordulike

Why should you not pay taxes. They pay for my grandmothers pension, hospital treatment etc.
I pay tax so do most honest men.
Why should you not pay?

Flaming hell, get off yer high horse mate. I've been working full time and paying taxes since leaving school, nearly 3 decades, so don't start suggesting that I'm not an honest person.
I was under the impression that imported goods already had taxes added from the originating country, then more added in the UK.
I'm not trying to be dishonest, just a bit miffed that I might be paying two lots of tax, but as JohnCade kindly pointed out, isn't added at point of sale.

 

[1boris]

I ordered for about 450 pound.on the paper from em3ev it said I paid about 70 usd

 

[mountainsport]

When I ordered a MAC kit form EM3EV a few years ago, I seem to remember they declared the quite expensive package at a lower cost. This saved me a boat load of import tax.

Was wondering if anyone had bought from them recently, anything over the £400 mark, and what import fees you ended up paying.

Don't we all love taxes..... NOT

Not only the taxes but the return of goods if things were to go wrong straight after opening the box.

MS.

 

[Fordulike]

Not only the taxes but the return of goods if things were to go wrong straight after opening the box.

MS.

I was fairly lucky with Paul's MAC kit. An initial noobie mistake of not connecting the extra red controller power lead. Also a loose screw in the motor housing produced a clicking sound during use.
Both rectified quickly and Paul sent a replacement gear assembly very quickly, without any fuss and no cost to myself.
It's usually quicker to remedy small problems yourself, rather than return goods to the retailer if they are outside of the UK.
Then again, fault finding is kinda fun for me and part of the appeal of learning how components work.
Some folks may not be so keen on opening up batteries and motors and get narked if they receive a less than perfect item

 

[mountainsport]

I was fairly lucky with Paul's MAC kit. An initial noobie mistake of not connecting the extra red controller power lead. Also a loose screw in the motor housing produced a clicking sound during use.
Both rectified quickly and Paul sent a replacement gear assembly very quickly, without any fuss and no cost to myself.
It's usually quicker to remedy small problems yourself, rather than return goods to the retailer if they are outside of the UK.
Then again, fault finding is kinda fun for me and part of the appeal of learning how components work.
Some folks may not be so keen on opening up batteries and motors and get narked if they receive a less than perfect item

That is so true for some, but as for me I will try my hands at anything mechanical rather than electrical. I totally agree with you that in most cases it is fun and adventurous to dig in and to fault find.
Paul is an honest fella because about nearly a year ago I was very interested in buying one of his kit plus the extras. Finally, I was just about to click on the 'BUY' button (he also knew of this and tongue ready to lick the last stamp), until something dawned on me with my major lack of knowledge what would happen if something electrical had gone wrong.
After the 89th time of emailing him and by deciding to round it off to 90 he honestly said that if I was not comfortable in buying it from him it would be totally fine if I was to cancel the BIG order so I did. Sorry mate.

To anyone who reads this please do not follow me by being timid or scared, just be brave continue to shave your under arm pits and forget about the razor bumps as Fordulike had said there is always away of getting around things. In this case don't press too hard.

MS.

 

[Fordulike]

You should take a look at what the crazy dudes get up to over on Endless Sphere. Some of the member's builds are pure genius, especially the guys that rig out cars with electric motors.

Some bloke is fitting a Chevrolet Volt lithium battery pack to a 1997 Solectria Force car. An interesting read, but a task I wouldn't want to undertake

Thread here

 

[mountainsport]

You should take a look at what the crazy dudes get up to over on Endless Sphere. Some of the member's builds are pure genius, especially the guys that rig out cars with electric motors.

Some bloke is fitting a Chevrolet Volt lithium battery pack to a 1997 Solectria Force car. An interesting read, but a task I wouldn't want to undertake

Thread here

I second that.

MS.