If you hate ebikers and e bikes don't look at this .

http://road.cc/content/tech-news/229935-bianchi-enters-e-bike-market-new-impulso-e-road-and-e-allroad-bikes

so 200kms from a 500Wh battery?

 

right..

I was thinking more about the branding...

Premium Italian bikes ridden by pseudo Olympic riders.. Not normal ebike territory..

Don't kid yourself about Italian premium brands. I had a Colnago C59 with Campy super EPS, very expensive and when things went wrong it was a nightmare.

One day the EPS decided not to work, it took 6 weeks to fix as the Itlian factory was on summer shut down for nearly 4 weeks. I vowed not to buy Italian stuff ever again. If I was to buy a good carbon road bike it would be the s works tarmac 5, unless the 6 is out now.

Terrible choice of name with Impulse.

This only makes sense if it's deristricted - if you are going go to 15mph then you may as well do on the comfort of a mountain bike - unless I guess you consider it an unpowered bike until you get to a big hill

 

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My point wasn't about the range possibilities, or even the look and feel of it.. Its just that the type of person who rides brands like this would be mortified to come across someone on an electric version. I can almost see them at the traffic lights trying to put distance between their bike and IT in case it was contagious..

The new orbea road bikes are very nice -

 

 

https://www.orbea.com/gb-en/ebikes/gain-d40

Considering that I am not into road bikes, the Bianchi does look rather nice.

 

https://www.rutlandcycling.com/content/bianchi-impulso-e-road-e-bike.aspx

I mist admit that I can't see the sense in a 25km/h electric road bike, except if somebody had a long commute and wanted to keep up a high average speed.

 

Still, each to their own!

I mist admit that I can't see the sense in a 25km/h electric road bike.

 

I don't think that you are alone with that opinion, and it is certainly one that I have read time and time again.

 

Thinking about it further, you would have be a very fit rider to go on say a weekend club ride with the bike. I have no idea what the average speed is of a club cyclist, but I'm guessing that it would certainly be more than 25km/h

 

The type of rider using a bike such as above, would surely be a rider that is either older, unfit, or has an injury/disability. Unless on a solo ride, they just aren't going to be able to keep pace.

 

I hate riding on the road, but I'd still like to try one for the experience, or even better, to prove my self wrong..

I don't think that you are alone with that opinion, and it is certainly one that I have read time and time again.

 

Thinking about it further, you would have be a very fit rider to go on say a weekend club ride with the bike. I have no idea what the average speed is of a club cyclist, but I'm guessing that it would certainly be more than 25km/h

 

The type of rider using a bike such as above, would surely be a rider that is either older, unfit, or has an injury/disability. Unless on a solo ride, they just aren't going to be able to keep pace.

 

I hate riding on the road, but I'd still like to try one for the experience, or even better, to prove my self wrong..

 

I think a bike with around a 1/3rd of the power available at all speeds would allow less fit/ older/ illness riders to keep up on a club ride. No e-bike is going to keep up with sub 8 kg bikes on 25 mm tyres unless powered above 25 kmh.

 

This is typical of my old club doing a fairly social Sunday ride. over 17 mph despite the hills https://www.strava.com/activities/1447624571

I think a bike with around a 1/3rd of the power available at all speeds would allow less fit/ older/ illness riders to keep up on a club ride. No e-bike is going to keep up with sub 8 kg bikes on 25 mm tyres unless powered above 25 kmh.

 

This is typical of my old club doing a fairly social Sunday ride. over 17 mph despite the hills https://www.strava.com/activities/1447624571

i can over take them but i wont get much more than 23 miles out of the batt doing it

i can over take them but i wont get much more than 23 miles out of the batt doing it

 

Yes but your bike also powers above 25 km/h.

I have a similar bike. I like road riding on a racing style bike but due to my age and history I couldn't keep up with a club ride on a normal bike, and if I could I would be dropped at the first hill and anyone able to keep up on club rides doesn't need an e-bike and wouldn't want the weight disadvantage either..

As one who likes this style of bike and has ridden one for 3600km I cant understand why a club rider would be a target customer as its just totally the wrong bike and as Artstu says they dont often ride at sub 17mph averages so speeds of 20+MPH are the norm. The target customer for this bike is someone like me.. 70 years old, fitter than average but no cycling history yet not ready to be consigned to a step through!

On that basis, I really don't get the drop bar riding position. Surely it is always going to be more comfortable and practical to ride a bike with flat bars, and a less radical position, especially when age isn't on your side.

 

As much as I love the looks, I just can't see a use for a drop bar ebike, with that kind of geometry.

 

I'm just reminded of the way that motorcyclist's buy super bikes, when they couldn't be further from what the rider should actually be buying. Vanity above practicality.

 

I guess that I need to try one, to see if I can make sense of it.

 

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Edited March 11, 20188 yr by EddiePJ

On that basis, I really don't get the drop bar riding position. Surely it is always going to be more comfortable and practical to ride a bike with flat bars, and a less radical position, especially when age isn't on your side.

 

As much as I love the looks, I just can't see a use for a drop bar ebike, with that kind of geometry.

 

I'm just reminded of the way that motorcyclist's buy super bikes, when they couldn't be further from what the rider should actually be buying. Vanity above practicality.

 

To start with many years ago I damaged my left thumb joint and now suffer painful arthritis in it. What this means when riding with flat bars is I cant grip the left side with my thumb opposing my fingers under the grip in the normal way so I have to leave my thumb on top with my fingers like they are all in a big finger less mitten and whilest I can grip normally, as you have to at times, its annoyingly painful after a short while. Again on flat bars am unable to operate a left gear changer that needs my thumb to push a lever so an ebike is really good there, but with drop bars I dont have an issue with either.

But to put it into perspective... I really like it! Dont know why but I do.. So its a little like those who enjoy going out and getting plastered with mud and crap to later spend an hour or more cleaning it off before doing it again the next day, and like you EddiePJ saying you would like to try a drop bar ebike.. well I tried the mud and crap and didnt really like it.

From a marketing point of view these road ebikes are popping up all over the place so the manufacturers must feel there is a market out there for them or they would bother to make them.

Interesting your comment on motor cycles as I fall into that catergorie as well.. That is to say that I always bought the plastic clad head down arse up sort of bike rather than a more a more sensible one.

so 200kms from a 500Wh battery?

 

right..

I can easily get 100kms from a 500watt battery and I am 70 so a younger fitter man should be able to do it. Dont forget that compared to off road riding with off road tyres, tarmac doesn't offer as much resistance.

Interesting your comment on motor cycles as I fall into that catergorie as well.. That is to say that I always bought the plastic clad head down arse up sort of bike rather than a more a more sensible one.

 

Don't worry, I have always been the same in that respect, then curse any ride over 70 miles!

 

Transferring that to cycles, we should all be riding sit up and beg bikes with wrap around handlebars. Sadly, practically of use and comfort, isn't a very British thing.

The best bike that I have ridden on the road, was exactly the above, and even had a step through frame.

Edited March 11, 20188 yr by EddiePJ

I would have thought that for most people a hybrid type bike would be much more versatile. Derestricted 0r as an S-pedelec, that bike makes more sense, though I'd want it lighter and with a hub-motor, which I think would suit it much more than the tractor engine in it,

Its horses for courses. Any body using eroad bike is going be cruising well above 25km/h level. The assist just means they don't fall below 25km/h on slight inclines and headwinds, or dread hills. If I was into road riding I can see the appeal.

 

After try my wife step though I can see appeal of these for all day cruising but they don't inspire confidence on long steep descents. Where I would fly down hills at 50km/h on MTB, I'd do same descent at 35km/h or less on wife's bike, riding brakes alot of way.

 

Touring ebikes are probably best compromise between comfort, speed and handling. Can ride in comfort above 25km/hr on flat while still flying down hills.

I would have thought that for most people a hybrid type bike would be much more versatile. Derestricted 0r as an S-pedelec, that bike makes more sense, though I'd want it lighter and with a hub-motor, which I think would suit it much more than the tractor engine in it,

That's assuming that "most People" actually make sensible purchasing decisions...

That's assuming that "most People" actually make sensible purchasing decisions...

Yes, I was trying to be pragmatic.

 

I do ride road bikes and all sorts of electric bikes regularly. I use the road bike for exercise and the joy of hard cycling, and my electric bike for shopping and general convenience, especially when I don't want hard exercise. Everything around Telford is hills, so you can't get an easy relaxing ride on a non-powered bike like you can in say Essex.

 

You can still use an electric bike for exercise, but a non-electric road bike is more saisfying and makes you try harder.

As a young man I used to ride drop bars and even now I think there are lots of places I would be able to ride an e-road bike over the 25 km/h cut off despite the weight difference. The position is aerodynamically better than a flat bar bike but at my age I doubt my back and neck would let me ride more than 25 km without pain. What I do like about drop bars is the huge variety of hand positions available.

 

Now that I have tasted balloon tyres there is no going back to skinny race tyres though...

Its horses for courses. Any body using eroad bike is going be cruising well above 25km/h level. The assist just means they don't fall below 25km/h on slight inclines and headwinds, or dread hills. If I was into road riding I can see the appeal.

 

After try my wife step though I can see appeal of these for all day cruising but they don't inspire confidence on long steep descents. Where I would fly down hills at 50km/h on MTB, I'd do same descent at 35km/h or less on wife's bike, riding brakes alot of way.

 

Touring ebikes are probably best compromise between comfort, speed and handling. Can ride in comfort above 25km/hr on flat while still flying down hills.