I`m Dreaming of the perfect winter bike boot.

neptune

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This is a subject I have touched on before. The problem with winter biking is cold and/or wet feet. I have a pair of overshoes that I wear over my trainers, and they work OK. The snags are, they take about ten minutes to put on, and apart from some straps they have no bottoms in them. I am told that this is to allow the use of pedal clips. My point on that is that I suspect that over 80% of people who ride bikes in wet cold conditions, do not use pedal clips, they use simple platform pedals. They are often people commuting rather than doing training rides.

So an ideal commuter overshoe would have a thin waterproof sole, that would grip a platform pedal, and allow a bit of walking without damaging the sole. Also, my overshoes are quite tall, which allows my waterproof trousers to be worn over them, and prevent water getting into the overshoe. Many overshoes are too short to allow this.

If I put on a pair of wellington boots, I can stand in a pool of water up to a foot deep, and my feet stay dry. This is true of even cheap wellies. So why can`t the same be true of a winter cycling boot. The obvious answer is to cycle in wellies. Experiment shows a few problems with this. The first problem is movement between the foot and the foot compartment of the boot.

The answer here is to wear multiple pairs of socks, so that the fit is tighter, but not so tight as to restrict blood circulation. Problem two, is lack of flexibility of the ankle part of the boot. Wellies have to be wide in the leg to allow the foot to enter. In motorcycle boots, we have a zip that allows access, and then pulls the leg of the boot tight. I can`t cycle in my motorcycle boots due to lack of ankle flexibility. I found that if I put a strap around the ankle of the wellie, it pulls it tighter to the leg, and allows better flexibility.I am trying to find some better, tidier straps.

The final problem is the the wellie soles are not quite rigid enough for comfortable pedaling. No doubt some wellies are better than others in this respect. I might try to find or make some more rigid insoles. I know that wellies are not ideal cycling shoes, but I am hoping that with modifications, I can ride ten miles on the worst of days and still have warm dry feet. Further experimentation is needed.
 
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awol

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I use a pair of cheap Karrimor waterproof walking boots from SportsDirect, they are waterproof and nice and warm too. People often comment on how can I cycle in those walking boots as they don't look anything like you could comfortably cycle in them, but they are absolutely fine as long as I don't lace them right up to the very top hook which I never do anyway.
 
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jwm

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I wear a pair of Shimano spd shoes, with waterproof socks (£14 amazon) and an overshoe (Aldi), toes always toasty. Overshoes stop the mud penetrating my shoes rather than cold protection. The Dexshell socks I got from Aldi, but Amazon do them too, like a semi-neoprene sock, not quite as warm as the YouTube video would have you believe, but I have no complaints. I commute all year round on the flat, can't recommend 'clipless' enough.

John
 

neptune

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John, I am pleased that clipless pedals work for you. Let us just clarify though, that in a clipless system, your feet are still attached to the pedals. I am a bit old and doddery now, and prefer to ride with my feet attached to the pedals only by gravity. So what I am saying is that while clipless is fine for younger fit athletic riders, those riders are a minority of cyclists on the street. It is great that kit is available to clipless riders, but it is a shame that someone doesnt make a boot specifically designed for commuting in the wet. In other words, basically a wellie with a waterproof zip and a strong sole, that can be put on and off in seconds. You could then put on your work shoes on arrival at work. I may look into the boots suggested by Awol.
 

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Keeping on the wellies theme, if you go to one of the larger independent motorcycle dealers with a clothing department, they sell dairy boots. These are wellingtons in style but often with somewhat more normal sole and heel areas, making them ok for motorcyclists. Could be worth investigating to see if they suit your needs.
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jwm

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No problem, Have you considered wet suit boots, not waterproof entirely, but it would have to be some downpour to soak them through, or goretex trainers and waterproof socks?

John
 

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awol

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Under some good waterproof footwear I also wear merino wool boot socks from edzdirect. Merino wool stuff isn't cheap but it is warm.
 

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Have a look at these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muck-Boot-Muckmaster-Neoprene-Wellies/dp/B00AO6BIBA/ref=sr_1_1?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1419846031&sr=1-1&keywords=muck+boot+company
I got mine for about £55 from a farm supplies store. They're designed to wear all day, slip on and off easily because of breathable lining. Top section is soft and seals to leg but can still be immersed. I wear them with no socks and still warm. Never tried them on the bike though, so don't know about ankle flexibility.
 

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How about snow boots, some are better than others but most are flexible around the ankles.
Recently I've tried loads on ( not for cycling ) and ended up with some mountain warehouse extreme snow boots marked up at £99 but a sale price of £39.99.
Stout soles and flexible enough for walking & maybe cycling aswell and verry toasty :)
 

neptune

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OK guys and as usual there was no shortage of excellent advice. d8veh, I did try some of the Totes motorcycle overboots one year, and they were quite good. The only snag I found was that they are only available in small medium and large. I chose the medium which were a bit too small, and so I had to stretch them to get them on. This led to them splitting, but they worked well for one season.

I bought a pair of Karrimor walking boots today from Sports Direct. My normal shoe size is an eight, but I bought a nine. I can wear two pairs of really thick socks without circulation issues. The boots are waterproof, but I will need my overboots in the wet to keep water out of the tops. I paid £33, and it was claimed they were reduced by 50%. They do not impede ankle flexing, and if they keep my feet warm, it is money well spent.
 

neptune

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@awol. The ones I bought [I assume you mean the Totes overboots] were quite tight, so there was no movement between shoe and overboot. I am an old guy who cycles slowly so am not looking to win races. Also, I have always pedalled with the instep rather than the ball of the foot or toe. I would say that whatever your pedalling style, they would work OK. If worn with waterproof trousers on the outside of the overboot they keep the feet 100% dry.
 

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Why not try a large pair of the totes overboots Neptune? I would definitely advise against wellies, having experienced a day riding in a pair, I finished with slapped calves! The comfort of the muck boots wellies depends very much on your foot shape - I found them exceedingly uncomfortable, and found the heels rubbed - unlike this type of boot

which I used to be able to wear for hours on end; and sometimes all day or night, without discomfort. I still wouldn't want to ride a bike in them tho'.
 

neptune

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My main problem lately has been cold rather than wet. I suspect i have circulation problems in my feet. My new walking boots by KARRIMOR. I chose a size too large to accomodate thick/extra socks. I have a pair of very thick double wall walking boot socks, so my feet stay warm for up to two hours in freezing temperatures. On wet days I will use my waterproof overboots to keep my ankles dry.
 

D C

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My main problem lately has been cold rather than wet. I suspect i have circulation problems in my feet. My new walking boots by KARRIMOR. I chose a size too large to accomodate thick/extra socks. I have a pair of very thick double wall walking boot socks, so my feet stay warm for up to two hours in freezing temperatures. On wet days I will use my waterproof overboots to keep my ankles dry.
Many years ago my work entailed long hours of being in the open in all weathers, including below zero temperature and without being able to move around much. I found that the answer to cold feet was to keep my legs warm so that the blood circulating to my feet wasn't pre-cooled by my legs.
Insulated Ski trousers were the answer for me along with good boots, which you seem to have and long socks.
Similar applied to keeping my hands warm, windproof gloves and jacket with good insulation in the (long) sleeves.

Dave.
 
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JamesW

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Or lycra cycling trousers as they are thicker and warmer than ski trousers and there is nothing to prevent you putting a layer on over the top so you don't look too serious about cycling fast!
 
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