The X has 2 extra kgs, the D21 is already heavy as it is. The D21 is missing from the Fiido UK website, and it's out of stock in ElectroHeads and BicycleLand. On mybikescheme.co.uk it shows as pre-order, which is weird, and that site also feels a bit shady, and definitely don't want to get it on eBay. So I'm seriously considering the Ado Air 20, even though they're lying about the real weight of the bike and it's actually not 16kg, but 17.8kg, so same more or less same as the Fiido. I would actually love to get something like a Tenways CGO600, but they don't do S size or step-through, and it would be always on the way in my flat...Do Fiido still make/offer the D21 in the UK? There're a few still left in Europe, but my thinking is it's been/being dropped in light of Fiido's repositioning... they've already dropped the D4s and D2s as they introduce Gravel, Carbon, and more new full-sized Fat-tyre models. The folding X model - with hydraulic brakes and torque sensor - has had its price cut significantly to fill that void where the D21 used to sit in the range. Similarly, the D11 has its price cut (and a cheaper/heavier but faster motor now fitted) to help fill the void left by discontinuing their hitherto cheaper/best-selling D4S.
Just speculation/rumour/chatter rather than verified fact... worth checking though before banking on buying another D21.
One member here had an X then had a D21 and swore the X's torque sensor was far superior to the D21; it's a branded part in the X and just a generic one in the D21 (he confirmed by taking them apart).
If the D21 does reappear, it too will likely be 1kg heavier with the new/more powerful motor as the D11 now has. I don't think it will though; the whole idea backfired badly by selling to those who otherwise would've bought an X.The X has 2 extra kgs, the D21 is already heavy as it is.
You could always fit quick release pedals and a quick release/turning headset so the handlebar twists to be parallel to the frame. Then if the bike does need to sit in your hallway at least it'd be hard against a wall.I would actually love to get something like a Tenways CGO600, but they don't do S size or step-through, and it would be always on the way in my flat...
I'm considering getting one (45 degrees, for a narrower folded profile) for my (still unassembled) Dahon Espresso project, but if I do, I won't be able to install a Redshift ShockStop... also this raises the handlebar an inch or so."quick release/turning headset so the handlebar twists to be parallel to the frame"
What do you mean? I haven't seen anything like that
I'd find not easily being able to lift a Fiido up and down stairs profoundly irritating, so it's a good job I don't have a Fiido... but if I did, I might look into making a foldaway low bar grip; set a new low bar.low-bar
It's something @saneagle uses/mentions from time to time. It may work with a Tenways, but I'm not sure it'd work with a C21/C22 though because, thinking more about it, the actual colour LCD display is physically integrated into the riser element of the stem.What do you mean? I haven't seen anything like that
You can fold the handlebars flat on any bike by replacing the screws on the stem clamp with quick release ones. It only works on convention 1 1/8" stem clamps, not on folding bikes. It might work on 1" quill-type stems.It's something @saneagle uses/mentions from time to time. It may work with a Tenways, but I'm not sure it'd work with a C21/C22 though because, thinking more about it, the actual colour LCD display is physically integrated into the riser element of the stem.
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A simple over priced front hub motor eapc , bar that it has a gates belt drive any PAS system will 99.99% be the usual cadence sensor and likely a not so user friendly speed controller.This one is also interesting: https://eco-move.co.uk/amx-black-edition-lowstep/
No info about which kind of sensor, though
Zoom in to the back of the stem:Yeah the C22 looks nice as well and at a very good price, though the Tenways is just 15kg and has carbon belt, which is appealing at 1299.
"quick release/turning headset so the handlebar twists to be parallel to the frame"
What do you mean? I haven't seen anything like that
The folding stem I mentioned in post #85 is for the older Espresso design frame with "free" fork "New old stock", which I could buy, but those levers could work with my present newer Espresso. Are those two levers on the same side? Do you have to loosen the top aswell, in order to turn the handbar sideways? You've been loosening and tightening those levers for awhile - have you noticed any wear of the threads?Zoom in to the back of the stem:
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Different stems have the screws in different directions. Some only have one screw, some have two from the same side, and some two from different sides, like mine.The folding stem I mentioned in post #85 is for the older Espresso design frame with "free" fork "New old stock", which I could buy, but those levers could work with my present newer Espresso. Are those two levers on the same side? Do you have to loosen the top aswell, in order to turn the handbar sideways? You've been loosening and tightening those levers for awhile - have you noticed any wear of the threads?
UberXL?I got a puncture midway home in the evening, and no chance of taking it on the bus, tube, or getting an Uber home...
Many local Taxi companies have estate cars and/or minibuses/8-seater vans for groups that you can easily chuck a full-sized bike in... nearly all have some on their fleet (even in central London), and they generally don't cost more to use... you just need to ask for one.I got a puncture midway home in the evening, and no chance of taking it on the bus, tube, or getting an Uber home...
That has the same wheelbase as my Helios, looks like it'll ride pretty sweet. What's the rider weight limit? Can it cope with Rapid Fatso? Hope so - dangerous fatsos might stop buying Surrons...
I'm warming to upgrading my Fiido to one of ebco's "street" models; Bafang rear hub or torque/mid-drive.
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Neat feature.handlebars can be rotated though to fold flat against a wall