Help needed in London, but willing to travel!

Stephen Harris

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Hi,

I first planned to create my own ebike (for commuting and fun!), and therefore undertake an organic approach to the ev scene. Building my knowledge, and skills along the way.

However whilst researching ebikes, and scanning the for the 'For Sale' sections of many 'publications' for parts etc., I hit the jackpot, and managed to get a fully set-up bike with a rear hub-motor.

All was well, until I went for a bit off-roading around a local patch.

Not going too fast, as I was still building my confidence on the bike, and gauging its (and my own) capabilities. I was riding along the track when I came to a section that looked unfamiliar. An area that usually has a small stream crossing the track had been gravelled over (tonnes of it!) presumably to raise the path above the raised water level, due to the recent flooding . Slowing down even further, I slowly made my way over the gravel. I then decided to give it some throttle as once i was in the gravel my speed dropped even further. Upon using the throttle the rear wheel span spitting gravel and the wheel just dug in, bringing me to an abrupt halt, and almost causing me to crash!

Once out the gravel/mud I thought i'd be fine to carry on, however trying to use the throttle once again after setting off, the motor burbled and went dead. I cycled back home (single speed).

I contacted the guy who sold the me the bike; as he said that he would be happy to help me out if their was ever an issue with the bike. He gave me a few tests to do:

  • Any resistance in the motor/wheel when spun? - none: motor is heavy, but the wheel turns smoothly & consistently.
  • Any noise? - no, slight disc brake rub
I'm haven't even got a multimeter yet (I am a noob. Can you guys recommend a good make/model?), so was unable to do anything relating to that type of testing.

Playing around with her last night I discovered that if the wheel had a bit of momentum, and then the throttle used, the motor seemed to work fine, + sounded normal. However when rear wheel is not moving, or moving slowly it doesn't work. I haven't tried riding it again, as I don't want to risk damaging anything further.

So I thought I'd reach out to you guys, and see if anyone may be in a position to help. I don't mind 'rewarding' you for your time, and expertise; but as I currently lack tools and knowledge, I'm needing hands-on assistance.

If you think you might be able to physically help, please PM me for more details or arrange a meeting. I don't mind traveling. Or if you can recommend a business, please feel free to contact me.

Sorry if I've been a bit vague in my set-up details, but as the ebike community is quite close/small I don't want to be giving the seller a bad name - they are not a dealer, and have been really helpful, but unfortunately they live quite a distance away; and at the end of the day this issue is my fault, not theirs; they sold the bike to move onto new ventures, and its not really fair that I'm bugging them all the time.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Ps
I have a Montague Paratrooper (almost new) available, that I was going to use as my first project bike
 

Alan Quay

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Sounds to me like you have burned something out when you stalled it in the gravel. Perhaps one or two phases inside the motor.

You will need a meter to check it out. Even a cheapo like this:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=141093479832

You can also get those from screwfix and tookstation. I expect maplin as well.

I think it would help if you let us know what the bike is, because otherwise were all just guessing.
 

Stephen Harris

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Go to:

For a video of the motor in action, and how it doesn't start when the wheel is stopped.

I think it is working normally once its going - but I'll let you guys be the judge of that!

I would take it apart myself, and check but I'm just worried that I might not put it back together correctly and wouldn't know how to resolve an issue should I find it.
 

Stephen Harris

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Thanks Everyone.

I have ordered my multimeter - just waiting for it to arrive.

The seller got back in contact with me, and wanted to check the bike out for himself. He was in London due to work, so we met up, and he took it home on the train.

He has since said that 2 of the 3 hall sensors where faulty, and need to be replaced.

All being well the bike should be ready for collection Saturday evening - so I'll be going on another road trip.

Whilst this is great news I am still a little disappointed that I never got 'hands-on' myself. I learn best by doing a bit of everything - reading/researching, listening, doing. Without practical experience I think I'll struggle with remedying issues in the future.

Its a shame the are no ebike classes/tuition available - covering all aspect of ebike assembly, maintenance, repair, electronics, etc, etc.

There are now plenty of successful biking 'classes/surgeries' popping up but nothing that covers the ebikes. Business opportunity??

Any recommendations on a good soldering kit?

Cheers
 

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