Help! Intermittent power loss under load on EMU Bike

GazzaTheDonkey

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Hi, can anyone help with this problem please.
My wife has an EMU Step-Through mk1 bike bought in 2016. It has a Nexus 7 speed rear hub and a front hub motor which Emu tell me is a Shengyi 250w. It has a brand new 36v 14Ah/504Wh Li-ion battery.
Problem is an intermittent drive loss under load. On the flat or small inclines there is no problem the motor pulls well if a little noisy but I think that is normal. However, when going up a hill the motor will cut-out completely for 5/10 seconds before coming back for anything from 5 to 20 seconds before cutting out again and repeating this cycle. Very occasionally it will go all the way up a hill without any problem, especially if you don't pedal too hard/fast.
When the motor drive cuts, and you can hear the whine stop instantly, the display is still showing a full battery but the Wattage reading drops to zero. Makes no odds how full battery is.
Ideas I've had but discounted:
Knackered battery - hence new one but hasn't helped
Knackered motor - possible I guess but watching the Watts drawn it will often cut-out showing say 240W then start up again drawing 400W+ and pulling hard.
Local bike dealer suggested it may be the pedal crank sensor intermittently failing - but if so why only when under load? I've cleaned around the sensor and the magnets but made no difference.
My best guess is it's perhaps a sensor somewhere failing, maybe in the front hub motor, but my knowledge of Pedlecs mechanics is minimal.
Thanks.
 

matthewslack

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Nov 26, 2021
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Hi, can anyone help with this problem please.
My wife has an EMU Step-Through mk1 bike bought in 2016. It has a Nexus 7 speed rear hub and a front hub motor which Emu tell me is a Shengyi 250w. It has a brand new 36v 14Ah/504Wh Li-ion battery.
Problem is an intermittent drive loss under load. On the flat or small inclines there is no problem the motor pulls well if a little noisy but I think that is normal. However, when going up a hill the motor will cut-out completely for 5/10 seconds before coming back for anything from 5 to 20 seconds before cutting out again and repeating this cycle. Very occasionally it will go all the way up a hill without any problem, especially if you don't pedal too hard/fast.
When the motor drive cuts, and you can hear the whine stop instantly, the display is still showing a full battery but the Wattage reading drops to zero. Makes no odds how full battery is.
Ideas I've had but discounted:
Knackered battery - hence new one but hasn't helped
Knackered motor - possible I guess but watching the Watts drawn it will often cut-out showing say 240W then start up again drawing 400W+ and pulling hard.
Local bike dealer suggested it may be the pedal crank sensor intermittently failing - but if so why only when under load? I've cleaned around the sensor and the magnets but made no difference.
My best guess is it's perhaps a sensor somewhere failing, maybe in the front hub motor, but my knowledge of Pedlecs mechanics is minimal.
Thanks.
It seems related to load and therefore to current. New battery and no change, plus it appears to work normally at low load has me thinking about imperfect connections that are ok at low current, but not at high.

Might be worth just going over every connector, disconnect, inspect, clean, assemble, wiggle and so on.
 

Nealh

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Aug 7, 2014
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West Sx RH
Continuous current rating of the battery, is it greater then the controller max current rating ?
 

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