fastelectricbike

fastelectricbike

what do you think?

Welcome, and?

Do you like my guide, on how to make one?

Or, you could just buy a pre-built moped, register and insure it. Then not only will it be more elegant, the brakes will be adequate and you won't lose your driving license if you get stopped.

Your video didn't upload at first.

I realise the potential fun of a fast bike in a safe environment. Unfortunately your bike on a road counts as an unsafe un registered and insured motorcycle.

Enough grief from the police to get you heavily fined and real trouble if you had any sort of accident.

 

Im acting a bit like the fun police but we need lots of safe legal bikes then a few doggy ones may get through. But if some electric motor cycles get publicly done then even the lightly iffi bikes will be in trouble.

So stay discrete and avoid trouble mate.

It's the future, it's safer as you keep a closer speed with traffic so less conflicts like normal cycling, plus most of the time you only go about 20-25 in town,

 

Plus I have never found a way to register it or anything like as it's not a motor bike so is completely different, unless you know how to?

why do you need a 1000W motor? an 8-Fun 250W BBS01 makes a decent kit, is fast enough to keep up with 20-25mph traffic in town and does not need number plate.

..... I have never found a way to register it or anything like as it's not a motor bike so is completely different, unless you know how to?

 

Well, that's sort of the point. It is very much a motor bike.

 

In order to remain classed as a bicycle, it needs to remain under certain limits, (weight, speed, power, and other stuff).

 

I also don't want to represent the fun police, and make no moral judgment. Those are 'Just the facts ma'am'.

 

...but I like your enthusiasm dude!

Don't take any notice of them. There's loads of people interested in what you've done, and a few that react any time they see something they're jealous of. They're all riding illegal bikes, but they don't want you to have one that's more illegal than theirs.

That could be true, I wanted one so researched and bought the kit and made it and now I'm sharing that to show how straight forward it can be and not too crazy expensive either these are stand kits readily available.

 

You just have to make it safe by putting great brakes on the bike I have hope m4 200mm discs on

Don't take any notice of them. There's loads of people interested in what you've done, and a few that react any time they see something they're jealous of. They're all riding illegal bikes, but they don't want you to have one that's more illegal than theirs.

 

Jealous, not likely I owned something very similar once for a very short time.

If I get pulled over I can point to the manufacturer to prove my bike is legal so I don't follow your last sentence.

I have a dead, legal bike. I was cruising along a cycle path.

I got hit by a car? If my bike was illegal I would have been classed as at fault. As it is the car driver is in court soon. And my permanent injuries will be the basis of my damages claim.

It could have been worse. Wheelchair bound! Or dead. Then what would my wife and child have done.

Yes they are fun. I have tried it. But I stopped as the risks were too high.

Lucky I did.

And a can do average 15mph on a manual cycle. Give me a boost up hill to 15 I can average over 20 with a legal bike. And max faster than I want to go.

Edited June 7, 201411 yr by D8ve

I have a dead, legal bike.

 

I'm sorry about your dead bike, but I'd like to remind you that if your bike is 250w, it's not legal in the UK. 200W is still the law here. The police won't prosecute you, but things could get very complicated if you're involved in an accident involving someone else that knows the law.

live and let live. I must say I prefer legal (if only in appearance) builds like this one:

 

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/diy-e-bike.17987/

 

Yes, but that one is not legal either. His rear light must be marked as conforming to BS3648, or BS6102/3, or an equivalent EC standard for the bike to be legal.

you know I ride a derestricted bike so I am not preaching here. I still think 1000W is dangerous especially when controlled by a simple throttle.

I just watched the video, and noticed that you've got the motor axle upside-down like the other guy. The wire should exit downwards if you don't want it to fill up with water. I didn't notice any torque arms either. Is it a steel sub-frame?

""there's loads of people interested in what you've done, and a few that react any time they see something they're jealous of"

 

Not jealous. I'm afraid. My non-electric bike is even slower than my electric one, and more fun. I have several concerns though about the use of fast ebikes:

 

1. They are used on bike lanes (shared with pedestrians) or on pavements.

 

2. There is no safety standard or check on home made fast ebikes. As many use standard bike parts for the `unexciting' bits like frames and brakes I suspect that many are not up to scratch. Unlike registered mopeds fast ebikes are not subject to MOT test or any form of type approval.

 

3. If I choose to ride a 50cc scooter, with a max speed of 30 MPH, I would be liable to register with the DVLA, insure it, MOT it (if old enough) etc. Why should that not apply to an electric bike capable of a similar performance?

 

3. As a utility cyclist/commuter I would like to see a reduction in the traffic speed in town centres and residential areas for all vehicles. 20 MPH allows pedestrians and unpowered bikes a chance.Fast powered bikes will only discourage the growth of cycling as a means of transport, even if it grows as a sport.

Yes, but that one is not legal either. His rear light must be marked as conforming to BS3648, or BS6102/3, or an equivalent EC standard for the bike to be legal.

I'm the owner of the e-bike referred here and the intention is to be legal. Just had a look at the rear light and it is CE stamped.

That's not enough. If you switch it on at night. It's illegal.

Hmm, please elaborate ?

I told you before. It has to be marked with the correct BS or EN number. CE marking isn't enough.

Sorry to hear of your bad experience d8ve,

 

Regarding the wheel being in upside down I was not aware of that, but this one has a rubber cover for the nut so I thought it would be ok. I've had it for a while and the frame has held up so far it's aluminium and pretty strong so not worried about the extract arm.

 

 

Regarding safety I maintain the bike regularly so that's not an issue, and I think it safer to ride on the road at these speeds so never go on cycle paths, this is purely for faster commuting, I have other normal bikes for fun riding

The rubber cover won't stop the water running in. It has a hole in it for the wire!

D8veh

Knows what he is on about.

We might disagree on minor issues/interpretation but his technical knowledge is some of the top here.

Edited June 8, 201411 yr by D8ve