ezee torq speed limiter

pecker

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Hi guys

Just got myself an ezee torq and loving it, but was wondering just for testing around my company car park how do I remove the speed limiter?

Thank’s

pecker
 

flecc

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Congratulations on your new Torq pecker.

If you look below the bottom bracket you'll see some wiring harnesses. One is a single ended stub with a connector on the end. If you unplug that, the limiter is off. It's best to use some insulating tape to protect the ends though.

Is it true that your company's car park extends from Lands End to John o'Groats? :D
 

pecker

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thank's for the speedy reply buddy . yes i think the car park is that big ! going to watch inspector morse then bed and early up for a ride

pecker
 

Jeanette Morgan

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Hi, Is there a spead limiter on the Ezee City Sprint? - and if so is it disabled in the same way? I guess removing it would mean you could go faster without pedling but this would, of course, use more battery ?

thanks
Jeanette
 

flecc

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I'm afraid not Jeanette, it's only a feature of the Torq, but you're right, with a delimited bike the battery is drained quicker.
 

ITSPETEINIT

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Delimiter

It's a pity there is not a delimiter on the Sprint and I suppose that applies to the Chopper as well?
I have looked at my Torq and for the life of me I cannot see a single stub that might contain the "red wire" in question - I will look harder with an open mind (and open eyes).
The reason I wanted to try delimiting the Chopper is because it does not keep up with my Torq (the Chopper's max speed is 12.5 mph - after that it's human power for every mph from zero).
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flecc

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This is a very widely misunderstood matter.

It's not a matter of limiting with the Chopper, it's the gearing. The 16 mph Sprint's motor is designed for a 26" wheel, so when it's put into a 20 inch wheel, the speed is reduced by the ratio of 26 to 20. In other words, divide 16 mph by 26, then multiply the answer by 20 and you get that 12.5 roughly.

The Torq is the opposite. It's motor was designed for the 16 mph Quando's 20" wheel, so when it's put into the 28" wheel it goes faster by that ratio, 16 mph divided by 20" and then multiplied by 28" equals roughly 22, the Torq's top speed. Only because that is illegal on our roads is a limiter applied to the Torq to hold it to the legal speed. The other models have no limiters because they don't need them to keep to the law, so there's no limiters to derestrict. These facts don't just apply to eZee bikes, they are true of all makes. Nearly all electric bikes are designed so that the motor's maximum revs on the battery's voltage produce roughly the legal speed, so no limiting is involved.

Another way of looking at this is to think of each motor having a given speed. If it's put into a wheel with a smaller circumference, it goes less far with each turn, in other words, it's slower.

The Torq's limiter stub is often tucked under the other parts of the wiring under the bottom bracket, look for some red insulation, that's on some models. You'll have to remove the insulation on the stub to reveal the shorting link.
 
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ITSPETEINIT

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The Quando is the bike - the Torq is a manufacturer's convenience

This is a very widely misunderstood matter

The Torq is the opposite. It's motor was designed for the 16 mph Quando's 20" wheel, so when it's put into the 28" wheel it goes faster by that ratio, 16 mph divided by 20" and then multiplied by 28" equals roughly 22, the Torq's top speed. Only because that is illegal on our roads is a limiter applied to the Torq to hold it to the legal speed. The other models have no limiters because they don't need them to keep to the law, so there's no limiters to derestrict. These facts don't just apply to eZee bikes, they are true of all makes. Nearly all electric bikes are designed so that the motor's maximum revs on the battery's voltage produce roughly the legal speed, so no limiting is involved.

Another way of looking at this is to think of each motor having a given speed. If it's put into a wheel with a smaller circumference, it goes less far with each turn, in other words, it's slower.

So EZee bikes decided that Torq owners can have the WORST of both worlds.
You can't do 22 mph because it's illegal (On the road) and it wont climb hills (the sort we have in the majority of Britain) because the bike was designed to do 22 mph on the flat.
There's something missing in technical specifications.
Caveat Emptor!!!!
Peter
 

flecc

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So EZee bikes decided that Torq owners can have the WORST of both worlds.
You can't do 22 mph because it's illegal (On the road) and it wont climb hills (the sort we have in the majority of Britain) because the bike was designed to do 22 mph on the flat.
There's something missing in technical specifications.
Caveat Emptor!!!!
Peter
I can't really agree on this Peter, they make the bike for a number of markets, and are good enough to give us the option. For those who don't want that, there's their other models, and other makes.

It's long been a principle in English law that it's the person who breaks the law who is the offender. The supply of something that can be used outside of the law, or modified to be not in accordance with the law is not an offence. If that were not true, a huge proportion of the products on our market, including ALL cars and motor cycles, would no longer be available. Even bikes would be out, because they can be ridden on pavements.

On hill climbing, the geographic distribution of hills isn't important. It's where people live and travel that matters. The great majority of the population live in the low lying areas, so for the population, only a very small part of Britain is very hilly, and that's more often where the sheep live.

Yes, the Torq is a lesser extreme hill climber than normally motor-geared bikes. but riding it unmodified I can still climb 12% at 71 years old, so that's easily good enough for nearly all of "population Britain".
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