Ebike - long range

[shemozzle999]

http://www.electricbikeworld.co.uk/electric-bike-range/all-electric-bikes/mountain-sport-endurance-electric-mountain-bikes/

Upgraded to 40Ah battery

 

[flecc]

Love the way they claim a 37 volt 40 Ah battery gives 1480 watts of power!!

They wish.

 

[Cyclezee]

eZee 36v 28Ah 1008Wh battery, it's a reality and it's available for any eZee bike old or new

 

[Deleted member 4366]

It looks very amateurish when they don't know the difference between watts and watt-hours. I hope they read this and fix it, because it's very misleading.
It;s a shame that there's not a picture of the actual bike too. That advertising lash-up is not representative.

 

[alan blake]

The new cells are coming, metabo is offering 6ah 18v packs for there tools either 3 or 5 year warranty on there battery, I guess there using the new 3ah metal cells current draw is very high in this application.
The future is looking brighter.

I am have good success with lipo 2* 6 cell packs at the low c rating the bikes use there life span seems very long in this application.

 

[Cyclezee]

This is what I call a long range trip, Perth to Sydney



by 3 eZee bikes

 

[shemozzle999]

Interesting put downs by the top 3 notable members.

They specialize only in e-bikes, have a dealer network, offer servicing, test rides, legal specs bikes and choose to be independent of this site

 

[mike killay]

Basically, this bike is any 36 volt, 10AH bike with 4 batteries.
Going on my throttle only tests of last year when I got 17 miles out of my Tonaro without any pedalling, I would guess that 68 miles would be obtained with 4 batteries. Double or more if you pedal.

 

[flecc]

Interesting put downs by the top 3 notable members.

They specialize only in e-bikes, have a dealer network, offer servicing, test rides, legal specs bikes and choose to be independent of this site

Not putting down the bike and nothing against them, just the inaccurate and inadequate website advertising. They simply aren't doing themselves any favours.

I've no idea if they are independent of this site or not, since I use Adban and don't know who is advertising here.

 

[trex]

the best 18650 cells at present can only go up to 3AH. A 37V 40AH battery will need at least 130 of those cells. The silver fish casing as shown in the picture should have enough space for about 70-90 cells, not 130. Prismatic cells are just as voluminous.

 

[shemozzle999]

Not putting down the bike and nothing against them, just the inaccurate and inadequate website advertising. They simply aren't doing themselves any favours.

I've no idea if they are independent of this site or not, since I use Adban and don't know who is advertising here.

I just spoke with Stuart Conway MD and he is grateful for you pointing out of this error and will see about correcting it.

 

[103Alex1]

the best 18650 cells at present can only go up to 3AH. A 37V 40AH battery will need at least 130 of those cells. The silver fish casing as shown in the picture should have enough space for about 70-90 cells, not 130. Prismatic cells are just as voluminous.

I wonder if they are Panasonic prismatic batteries like their earlier ones or a different technology, manufacturer or type. It will definitely be interesting to see how they fit and also how much they cost relative to multiple batteries from other manufacturers. Also how long they take to recharge.

I'd like to give a bike with that much capacity a try. If you wanted a bike for bicycle touring or joining in Sportive-type circuits it sounds like a good solution. Let's face it, who wants to have spare batteries bouncing about a carrier or having to wear rucksacks on a long ride ?

 

[flecc]

I just spoke with Stuart Conway MD and he is grateful for you pointing out of this error and will see about correcting it.

Thanks for doing that, it's always a pity when an e-bike company publishes anything which can lead to dissatisfaction. It's enough of an uphill struggle to popularise them in the UK without misleading information doing damage.

This is where BEBA can be useful if companies join.

 

[trex]

I wonder if they are Panasonic prismatic batteries like their earlier ones or a different technology, manufacturer or type. It will definitely be interesting to see how they fit and also how much they cost relative to multiple batteries from other manufacturers. Also how long they take to recharge.

I'd like to give a bike with that much capacity a try. If you wanted a bike for bicycle touring or joining in Sportive-type circuits it sounds like a good solution. Let's face it, who wants to have spare batteries bouncing about a carrier or having to wear rucksacks on a long ride ?

Samsung SDI are going to supply 3.2AH cells very soon, even with those, a 36V 40AH battery will still weigh about 7-7.5kgs.
I think 36V 30AH (6kgs) is going to be about as much as we see arriving this year.

 

[jackhandy]

Basically, this bike is any 36 volt, 10AH bike with 4 batteries.

But where are they?
The picture's fuzzy, but there appears to be one battery behind the seat tube:
A dirty great label obscures view of the rack, so there might be another battery there, but they say it's nicely balanced so, with a rear motor, that can't be; which only leaves the probability of a 40 ah battery. Very compact.

 

[shemozzle999]

It looks very amateurish when they don't know the difference between watts and watt-hours. I hope they read this and fix it, because it's very misleading.
It;s a shame that there's not a picture of the actual bike too. That advertising lash-up is not representative.

Website now corrected in under 1 hour of notification - hardly amateurish.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

Interesting put downs by the top 3 notable members.

They specialize only in e-bikes, have a dealer network, offer servicing, test rides, legal specs bikes and choose to be independent of this site

I'm not putting down the bike at all. I think that there's a place for everything. It's the wishy-washy inaccurate representation of it that I find uncomfortable. If they have the bike, why not show a photo of it? Are they not proud of it? What is there to hide? So let's have a proper photo, and then I'll be happy.

 

[Cyclezee]

I doubt if many people will want that level of battery capacity.
Theoretically an eZee bike could have 42Ah with a dual battery setup, 1 x 28Ah VP and a 14Ah FP on the rear rack, but you are looking at around 10Kg of batteries to lug around.

One company that uses eZee Expedirs for deliveries has 2 x 20 Ah batteries for each bike but they only use one at a time.

A member of staff 'borrowed' one of the 20Ah's to use on his own Torq, unfortunately that bike got stolen

 

[Deleted member 4366]

I've done 80 miles a couple of times on a 20 aH battery. it was quite a long day. I think 40aH makes a bit more sense if you have a powerful motor or want to travel at sustained high speed. I must admit that it seems a lot for a 250w 15mph bike. I don't see the weight as too much of a problem. Guys on ES run with 40aH of 48v LiFePO4 at 29kg. I expect that when we get a photo, we'll see the battery in two halves, so that you don't have to carry the full weight for short journeys.

 

[amigafan2003]

the best 18650 cells at present can only go up to 3AH.

The Panasonic 3400mah NCR18650B's I've got sat in my fridge must be fake then ;-)