ebco ucr 30 at halfords 40-50miles range??

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hi all was in my local Halfords they had an ebco ucr30 ebike front hub moter 36v with 8ah rear mounted battery range is given as 40-50 miles eco mode I think the bike was 28kilos.

I am a bit dubious about the ranges quoted for ebikes in general 40-50 miles.

last week I used garmin edge gps to keep track of my milage vita uno 21kilos +rack and 2 locks 10.4 ah battery, my weight 80kilos.

i used mode 1 assist almost 100% very small use of mode 2, speed about 10mph mainly flat, ill be the the first to admit i don't tend to put much effort into assisting the bike.

i did this over a couple of days nice and sunny, no wind and got 31.1mph overall i led showing on display but sure battery was on last legs.

i don't think in a month of sundays i would achieve 40-50 on the ebco with a heavier bike and smaller battery.

would i be incorrect in thinking this

thanks all

 

[Deleted member 4366]

About 30 miles from a 10 Ah 36v battery is about right. Obviously, you get more if you're light and fit, and less if you're heavy and have hills to contend with.

 

[JohnCade]

No you wouldn’t be incorrect. All these manufactures claim wildly inaccurate range based on you doing all the work in flat terrain. You have to think in terms of watt hours per mile. Your battery has about 370 wh in it. So at 10 watt hours per mile it would give 37 miles. Depending on how fast you go and how windy and hilly it is you could use anything from 12 to 20 wh/pm.

 

[flecc]

On average across our users 12 Wh/mile is typical, so on that basis your 288 Wh battery only equals about 24 miles. Getting 30 miles would be quite good using only 9.6 Wh/m.

With the fittest getting by on 7.5 Wh/mile with considerable pedal effort, 38 miles would be the limit. Getting beyond that mileage with even more effort would make me question whether it was worth bothering with an e-bike, might as well get a free rolling much lighter normal quality bike.
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[Jimod]

I've got 2 ebikes both with 10ah batteries. On the Tourer I will get over 30 miles with no problem. I'm usually always in power level 5. I live in a hilly but not mountainous area. On one memorable occasion, I managed 45 miles on one battery. That was on a lovey warm summer's day. I used level 4 on lots of occasions. Generally though, I'd tell people I'd expect 30 miles.

The other bike is a Kudos Typhoon. It's a different beast with a different type of battery but 10 ah still. The motor is more powerful so uses the battery more. If asked I'd tell you I'd expect 20 to 30 miles from one battery. It all depends on how hilly the route. I've done 30 miles and completely flattened the battery, I've done 30 miles and not flattened the battery. I've also done just over 20 miles and thought I wouldn't get much further.

No 2 people, even on the same model bikes and on the same route riding together, will achieve the same mileage.

The old rule applies: You pays your money and you takes your chance.

 

[selrahc1992]

hi all was in my local Halfords they had an ebco ucr30 ebike front hub moter 36v with 8ah rear mounted battery range is given as 40-50 miles eco mode I think the bike was 28kilos.

I am a bit dubious about the ranges quoted for ebikes in general 40-50 miles.

last week I used garmin edge gps to keep track of my milage vita uno 21kilos +rack and 2 locks 10.4 ah battery, my weight 80kilos.

i used mode 1 assist almost 100% very small use of mode 2, speed about 10mph mainly flat, ill be the the first to admit i don't tend to put much effort into assisting the bike.

i did this over a couple of days nice and sunny, no wind and got 31.1mph overall i led showing on display but sure battery was on last legs.

i don't think in a month of sundays i would achieve 40-50 on the ebco with a heavier bike and smaller battery.

would i be incorrect in thinking this

thanks all

apologies for slightly off topic, but that piqued my interest so i went to look at the halfords website, to buy that for £1100 i'd have to really ask myself why i'm not spending a few hundred more for a crank drive kalkhoff

 

[Darren Hayward]

I have a UCR 30. I'm 106kg and when commuting I must be right on the weight limit for the bike of 120kg. Using power 3 (out of 3) all the time I get 19 or 20 miles per charge but I don't peddle very hard.
The only time I used it on power setting 1 I'd estimate the range would have been just about 25 miles. If like me you want get get plenty of help from the motor the various power settings are irrelevant because the lower settings don't give a lot of extra range, you just go slower.
If you are the type of rider who wants to make more effort then the longer ranges quoted are obtainable but I'd say if you are that type of rider the bikes weight becomes more important and the UCR 30 isn't the bike for you.

I'd describe it as 'solid'. Not the best at anything but certainly not the worst.
The main attractions of the UCR30 are its easy availability through Halfords, good basic spec (lights, proper mudguards, etc) and it can be bought through the cycle to work scheme.

Darren

 

[Deleted member 4366]

apologies for slightly off topic, but that piqued my interest so i went to look at the halfords website, to buy that for £1100 i'd have to really ask myself why i'm not spending a few hundred more for a crank drive kalkhoff

That's a really good question, but what's the answer? You could also ask the question different ways. Why not spend a few hundred less for a hub drive Woosh, or why not spend a few thousand more and get a top of the range Haibike. These questions are not easy to answer.

 

[selrahc1992]

That's a really good question, but what's the answer? You could also ask the question different ways. Why not spend a few hundred less for a hub drive Woosh, or why not spend a few thousand more and get a top of the range Haibike. These questions are not easy to answer.

the ebco ucr30 has rim brakes, a small battery and a generic bafang hub motor - same as this
http://www.kudoscycles.com/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=275
for £695, i can see the merit of as Darren says availability through halfords and the bike scheme, but it seems a lot extra for that elighteningly informed chat with a "technician" at halfords

 

[Deleted member 4366]

There's not a masdive difference in bikes in the price range £600 to £1200. The price difference fomes more from the support and backup. It's a big dilemma. Do you buy the £600 bike mail order and hope, or the £1100 one from the shop next door, who will be able to help you with everything?

 

[Croxden]

apologies for slightly off topic, but that piqued my interest so i went to look at the halfords website, to buy that for £1100 i'd have to really ask myself why i'm not spending a few hundred more for a crank drive kalkhoff

I decided to spend a little more for the bit extra, but where do you stop?

I spent a lot more than I was going to but don't regret it. I got a first class bike (the Delite & Birdy) the Haibike as yet to prove its self but seems it's going to be a goodun.

It's what you can and willing to part with, same with anything else.

Good hunting.

 

[Tubamanandy]

With regard to distance you can get out of a battery, I'm 116Kg and have a Kudos Typhoon which has a relatively small battery but with a powerful motor.

It's fabulous to ride on power level 5/5 but I would only get around 20 miles. I rode 26 miles today using only really power level 2 due to a slow wife of a conventional bike and using canal towpaths only - plenty of battery left after 26 miles.

I recon I could have gone for miles on power level 2 (circa 11-12mph) - I guess the motor was working near its most efficient. I think its using the power at high levels (power level 4 or 5) that, whilst being fabulous to use, really drain the battery.

 

[Electrifying Cycles]

the ebco ucr30 has rim brakes, a small battery and a generic bafang hub motor - same as this
http://www.kudoscycles.com/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=275
for £695, i can see the merit of as Darren says availability through halfords and the bike scheme, but it seems a lot extra for that elighteningly informed chat with a "technician" at halfords

The Ebco does not have a Bafang motor. It has a TranzX motor. You can see more detailed information about the bikes on EBC's website as well as ours. Alternatively TranzX have their own website with information about their motors and batteries http://www.tranzxpst.com/

The Ebco bikes are among the best made for the price, you can get cheaper but I have not found a brand which has the same quality for the price. The cheaper bikes might be suitable for the needs of some. It is about finding your right bike.

Best way of finding ideal bike is to try different ones and also have a reasonable idea of how far you want to go. I would quote around 25 miles on the UCL or UCR30 but more is possible (40 miles max but only in Eco mode which most people do not use all the time).