E-Bike related clip taken from "The Guardian" 14th Jan 2023.
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They are complaining about bikes going 26mph, hardly speeding, a competent cyclist on an ordinary bike can easily achieve that. I was expecting to read if higher speeds, 40mph etc. They still need to slow down though.
Exactly. There have always been inconsiderate people riding in a way that inconveniences and even endangers others. However, unfortunately ebikes makes such behaviour easier
This blog entry from an American ex-pat living in Amsterdam may suggest why more powerful and faster (even if only slightly) ebikes might be more of an issue in Amsterdam. Lovely city to visit though and we survived it (just?) on our non ebikes some years ago.
from the above blog. "Behind the Ibis Hotel near Amsterdam Central Station, a four-story bicycle parking structure"
A sight to behold. Having seen this black mass of bikes myself, I did wonder how you recognized your own bike when stored there.
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Interestingly, dangerously ridden and illegal s-pedelecs and scooters is not on the list of 10.
That's because the blog is dated, from September 2016.
I'm fairly certain that the permission for mopeds and the like to use bike paths came after that. In any case it would have been too new a measure then to have caused such a problem yet.
It certainly is a very big problem now and seemed instrumental in the French dropping their plan to legalise the high speed S class pedelecs in 2017.
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Looks like it was in 2019 snorfiets (mopeds) were banned from the cycle lanes of major NL cities. Although it seems as if you can still use microcars on them, which go much faster!
Scooters and hoverboards add to Dutch cycle lane hell
Police union chief says it is impossible to keep lanes safe due to variety of vehicles and rules
www.theguardian.com
Yes, that was the reaction to the earlier permission for them which led to such chaos.
Yet despite such examples to be careful what is permitted, our DfT still gave permission for our e-scooter trials!
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- True enough but in general the typical city centre cyclist in the Netherlands doesn't cycle that way
- The picture in the article shows all going at what seems like a leisurely pace and notably not a helmet in sight which is why the text further down it that article caught my eye.....
Don't worry. When the EU Commission wanted to introduce compulsory helmets for all cyclists, the Dutch government killed it off by telling them they would refuse to implement it.
So I cant see them bringing in helmets for legal pedelecs.
The S class high speed ones are a different case though, since helmets are compulsory for them elsewhere, such as Germany, Switzerland and I believe Denmark.
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I hired one there many moons ago, and got it for a week for the price of a weekend due to being a mad keen cyclist with high end bikes after i got into a long deep chat with the two blokes working there. Pays to engage
Rear coaster brake that took some getting used to and was nearly the end of me.
I stopped on a tram line, tram coming Ding Ding, ok, went to lift a pedal to start,only to find that engages the brake.
This didnt register at first. ding ding ding, tried again, still the wrong thing to do
ding !ding !ding !ding !ding !ding ! lol
Straddling the bike i dragged myself off the track just in time. Got one hell of a look off the driver. Must have thought i was suicidal.
Fellow coaster brake hater. At least my experience (many years ago) was in Danish countryside, not in town, so more of a big irritation than anything else.
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