Does anyone know where you can find the "steepness" of hills?

Ettica

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Sep 19, 2008
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People bang on about "going up a hill" using their e-bike but the word "hill" can mean many things to many people.

I tend to use the word "incline" when describing a gentle rising in the road.

What I want to know is, is there anywhere where you can get gradient info on a road hill?

I know some roads have a sign, e.g. 1:3 or as a % but where there isnt a sign how can you tell?

Are there gradient gadgets you can attach to your bike to give you an indication of the steepness? or maps you can get with the info?
 

DBCohen

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An on-bike GPS such as the Garmin Edge range will give you distance and height information as a track on a PC after you complete your trip. Should allow calculation of gradient fairly easily.

David.
 

flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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Since I cycle the same routes most of the time so a measurement only needs to be done once, I use the method described as "nerdy" since it's more accurate than the bike indicators anyway, and very much cheaper. Here's the original posted method:

Do you get puzzled over all this talk of 5% or 12% hills, all just mumbo jumbo, or even if you understand it, do you know how to classify your hills to compare them?

Here's how, the easy way.

You need a spirit level, you may have one already in a set square or separately, but if not, buy a cheap one from a DIY or tool shop. If you haven't got one, also get an extending rule with centimetres on it. Then get a strip of straight metal or wood and cut it to exactly 50 centimetres long. Tape an expanding rule on one end so that the tape extends down against the end of the 50 cm strip. Tape the spirit level next to it on the top surface of your straight strip and secure it firmly with tape or rubber bands.

That's your measuring apparatus complete. If the hill you want to measure isn't at home, you can tie that strip to your crossbar to ride to your destination.

Now on a representative sloping part of the hill, rest one end of your strip on the road surface with the spirit level above and the bubble kept centralised. With the other hand, hold the rule extended and vertical against the road directly above the other end of the strip and note the number of half centimetres measured where it meets the underside of the strip right at the end. Thats the percentage measure of your hill, it's as easy as that, just the distance from the road surface vertically to the 50 cm point on the underside of your strip. If it's 5.5 cm, there's 11 half centimetres so it's an 11% hill. Just make sure the bubble is central as you read the measurement.

Here's a photo of my sophisticated device:



If you want to express the hill as one in something instead of a percentage, just divide the answer into 100. So the 11% hill mentioned, with 100 divided by that 11 is a 1 in 9 hill.
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flecc

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The protractor will only be ok if you are prepared to convert the degree of angle to the percentage.

Bear in mind that a 100% hill is 45 degrees, yes really. Anything over that is over 100%, which is a bit silly of course. :)

P.S. I like the Hi-Viz jacket idea. I've found that motorists are so curious they slow right down and drive past with plenty of clearance as they gawp at me measuring.
 
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john

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You can make an inclinometer without carrying a spirit level. I have a piece of wire which hangs vertically when the bike is level and some marks (on the battery case) which indicate the angle as the wire swings when the bike (and road) is not level.
 

Ettica

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Sep 19, 2008
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Heskin Lancashire
good idea john.

People have asked "why do you want to know the steepness of a hill?"

Because non cyclists or "ordinary" cyclists seem to think that the motor in an electric bike will get you up the hill. I want to tell them that over a certain gradient, there is no "assistance" at all and it's pure "muscle power!"

Whats' more, you are propelling a heavier than normal bike up a hill so it's even more impressive!:D

I want some respect!


Sad isn't it:)