DfT release findings of 2 year EPAC consultation

Wisper Bikes

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The Department for Transport has released the findings from its Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle (EAPC) Consultation.

This consultation started in January 2010 and sought views on whether to amend the Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle (EAPC) Regulations 1983 to simplify the legislation and provide closer alignment with European provisions.

The DfT said there is wide support to align with the European power limit from 200 watts to 250 watts. This would make for a sensible change, bringing the UK into line with current EU standards. However, ETRA has been lobbying the EU to increase this wattage ceiling and in the next month or two the EU is expected to vote through higher wattage ceilings for e-bikes, despite opposition from CTC, Sustrans, and trade associations the Bicycle Association of GB, Colibi and Coliped.

Any wattage increase to 250W in the UK would not raise the maximum speed, which will remain at 15mph.

UK regulations limit the maximum weight for electrically assisted bicycles to 40kg and for tandems and tricycles to 60 kg. There is no weight limit applied to electric cycles used elsewhere in Europe or to pedal cycles used in the UK. 
Comments received during the consultation included concerns that removing the weight limit would permit electric mopeds, heavier cargo cycles and electric pedicabs to be used on cycle tracks raising safety issues for those sharing the same space.

On "twist and go" e-bikes - ie throttle-controlled - the DfT will wait for further decisions from the EU.

The DfT said:

"Twist-and-go EAPCs 
EU rules require twist-and-go variants to comply with the same “construction standards” applied to low power mopeds. However, we do not apply the same “Registration or Use” rules that are commonplace for twist-and-go types in many other Member States (meaning they are not subject to registration, road tax [the DfT means 'vehicle excise duty], insurance, etc) and allow them to be used in GB as cycles. 
Some respondents raised concerns about removing "twist and go" products from the EAPC rules – and treating them as motor vehicles. There were comments about the advantages this type of cycle offered - for example to the elderly who may have difficulty pedalling. There were suggestions to retain a limited twist and go function (e.g. up to 4 or 5 mph) to help riders get going, particularly for a hill start.

"There were also concerns that sales of EAPCs would fall if "twist and go" was prohibited, with people returning to more polluting forms of powered transport. Others felt that fully harmonising with EU rules and in effect classifying a twist and go cycle as a moped was essential in order to ensure EAPCs were genuine pedal cycles and not simply electric mopeds fitted with pedals."

Here are the DfT's on-the-fence decisions:

"The Department for Transport has considered the responses to this consultation and supports recommendations to harmonise power limits (from 200 Watts to 250 Watts).

"Regulatory proposals will be developed to update the GB power limit for electric cycles once EU discussions on a much wider group of 2, 3 and light 4-wheeled vehicles conclude. We expect this process to be completed during 2012. In the mean time we will also carry out further work to consider whether other parameters (e.g. weight limits) could also be simplified or updated to reflect modern designs.

"The outcome of EU discussions could have implications for how we regulate EAPCs nationally. It would therefore be unhelpful to pre-empt the outcome of these discussions and to make changes to national rules which might need to be subsequently repealed."

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Wisper Bikes

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It seems BEBA's point of view regarding the use of a throttle and higher powered EPAcs has been taken seriously which is very satisfying. We still are not home and dry mainly due to the BAGB for example making a case for throttles to be outlawed due to their installation "blurring the lines between cycles and mopeds" and being a danger to other users in cycle lanes.

We are just about to submit a response to BAGB's letter to Norman Baker in which they asked for throttles and higher powered electric bikes to be banned in the UK.

Regards

David
 

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The actual DFT report on the consultation is here pdf.
 

flecc

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Thanks for all BEBA's efforts David.

I'm glad that BEBA is now being seen to be a useful force for the good of e-bikers, something some seemed to doubt when it was first formed.
 

indalo

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David, May I just echo Flecc's remarks and congratulations on what may be seen possibly as progress. The BAGB worry me a little and I think some of their views that I have seen reported are a little sinister.

Indalo
 

Wisper Bikes

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Thanks Flecc and Indalo,

Although we have about twenty members now including 4 associates, we do need more. The burden of BEBA's activities currently fall on the shoulders of a few and any help would be massively appreciated. If there are any dealers or importers/manufacturers who are willing sign up to our code of practice and are able to support BEBA financially in terms of membership fees we would love to hear from them.

There are one or two retailers/manufacturers participating on this site who claim to be a part of BEBA who are not members. If you are one of these please would you contact us with regards to becoming fully paid up members ASAP or remove logos etc from your sites or signatures?

Regards

David
 

Scatty

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& it only took two years to get to this, Think somebody is getting paid way too much & dont want to lose there job... :rolleyes: If i had a throttle i would be bothered. :D
 

Wisper Bikes

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BEBA response to BAGB's letter

We will publish this tomorrow in Bike Biz etc. Constructive comments would be gratefully received!

BEBA has been monitoring the recent opinions of ETRA and various other bicycle groups regarding the proposed changes to the Motor Cycles Framework Regulation COM (2010) 542 by the IMCO Commission of the European Parliament with great interest.

BEBA represents the interests of members who predominantly specialise in the manufacture and distribution of electrically assisted bicycles. We believe we have a balanced and complete understanding of the regulations and rules governing the use of electric bicycles in both the UK and Europe. Because our members are predominantly electric bike specialists we probably have the best understanding of the needs and wants of the UK electric bicycle buying public.

It is our opinion that the changes proposed by ETRA are not only good for the industry but will also encourage an increasing number of people away from their cars and vans and onto electrically assisted pedal cycles and tricycles, which is beneficial to the whole cycle industry. To try and create differences between what is acceptable in the UK and in Europe can only be harmful, driving up prices in the UK and perpetuating the confusion between what is acceptable in the UK and the rest of Europe.

It is important to understand that the proposed changes to the wattage of the motor will not effect acceleration or top speed. Through electronic regulation bikes will still have to be within the parameters of the existing European standard EN15194. Higher wattage motors may increase the weight of a bicycle but by no more than 1kg. Most manufacturers would have to reduce the weight of their bicycles to meet the new 25kg maximum weight limit if they want to retain a full throttle. Consequently any extra power will simply be used to enable electrically assisted bicycles to negotiate steeper inclines or carry heavier loads. This in turn will allow older people, those with health issues and some delivery services such as the post office to use electrically assisted bicycles instead of conventional vehicles associated with road congestion and pollution.

The issue of “twist and go” throttles in our opinion is reasonably straightforward. They are legally fitted to more than 80% of all electric bikes currently in use in the UK without any issues as far as we can ascertain. We understand from recent consultation with electric bike riders in the UK that the twist and go throttle is considered a huge benefit in terms of safety and usability.

In the experience of riders in the UK the throttle is an invaluable asset for the riders safety in the following real world conditions:

Stability. When riding on sand, snow or ice, a throttle provides enhanced stability. A rider can stop pedalling and lower their centre of gravity whilst still slowly moving forward.

Keeping out of the way of heavy traffic. Riders find they are able to ride much closer to the kerb when forced to do so by other traffic, the danger of catching a pedal on the kerb is reduced to the point of becoming almost insignificant.

Faster and safer starts. The use of a throttle will help get a bike moving quickly, reducing wobble during take off, particularly when at the front of a queue at traffic lights, on hills, or crossing busy roads. Being able to simply twist a throttle to add boost is far safer than trying to stand up on the pedals to get the bike moving to a safe speed.

Speed control. Riders can move slowly yet steadily on busy cycle paths and avoid situations where they are in too high a gear and can't easily maintain forward motion.

Speed boost. Being able to accelerate at a moments notice is valuable for getting out of the way of motorists in dangerous situations.

We must stress that we do not approve of electric bikes exceeding the 15.5mph limit being used on the public highway or cycle paths.

Whilst most non-electric riders could live without a throttle there does not seem to be any good reason to remove its use from future electric bicycles.

From a recent study of electric bikes owners preferences we have discovered that of those who have the benefit of twist and go throttle in the UK;

7% never use the throttle.
24% use throttle on start up to help get going and for safety reasons.
28% use the throttle occasionally to rest legs/heart/lungs.
41% always use the throttle.

Electric bicycles are not normally associated with young and fit individuals who ride a pedal cycle for pleasure or a few miles to and from their place of work. They are predominantly purchased by those who would not normally consider a bicycle at all and others who appreciate assistance on a long commute and would prefer to arrive at their destination without needing a shower.

Electric bicycles remain a key growth area in the UK cycle market however manufacturers, distributors and cycling organisations alike must take note of the user's needs.

BEBA are fully supportive of making cycling more available to everyone, including less abled riders, offering them the freedom that so many of us already take for granted. We strongly believe that the proposed changes to the current legislation will further open cycling to all.

David Miall
Chairman
British Electric Bicycle Asociation
 

indalo

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There are one or two retailers/manufacturers participating on this site who claim to be a part of BEBA who are not members. If you are one of these please would you contact us with regards to becoming fully paid up members ASAP or remove logos etc from your sites or signatures?

Regards

David
Come on; own up and stump up!:)
 

funkylyn

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Excellent reply David, you seem to have all issues covered ......I can appreciate how much
work that has taken !


Hopefully 'they' will listen more to BEBA rather than BAGB..... .....

Lynda :)
 

lemmy

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Keeping out of the way of heavy traffic. Riders find they are able to ride much closer to the kerb when forced to do so by other traffic, the danger of catching a pedal on the kerb is reduced to the point of becoming almost insignificant.
Riding closer to the kerb? The last thing we should be encouraging. We are perfectly legitimate users of the road. If a cyclists is forced into the side of the road that is their fault, they should position themslves better.

I don't use or need a throttle but I can see the sense of all the arguments except that one. That would make a better reason for being allowed to ride on the pavement than for a throttle in my opinion.

I don't think that should be among the reasons for having a throttle at all. Couldn't that be dropped?
 

RoadieRoger

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My home town of Barry has some `killer` hills that are positively cruel to my front hub 200W motor , so I dismount and `drive `my machine up while walking alongside . I hardly use the throttle otherwise . Why the keenness to scrap it when it has it`s uses ?
 

mike killay

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Not knowing who BAGB are, I googled and wondered what the Builders Association of Great Boston thought they were doing poking their noses into our affairs!
Seriously though, BEBA are the experts for e-bikes, BAGB seem a lot of fussy old NIMBYs.
Perhaps, one day, motorcycles will be electric, but so far, no-one can thing of any chemistry including boiling caustic soda that will store a sufficiently high energy density.
E-bikes will remain predominantly modest in power for many years because of battery problems.
Although I would love to see the elecrtric car become practical, I have many doubts as to whether it will ever be so.
 

Wisper Bikes

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Riding closer to the kerb? The last thing we should be encouraging. We are perfectly legitimate users of the road. If a cyclists is forced into the side of the road that is their fault, they should position themslves better.

I don't use or need a throttle but I can see the sense of all the arguments except that one. That would make a better reason for being allowed to ride on the pavement than for a throttle in my opinion.

I don't think that should be among the reasons for having a throttle at all. Couldn't that be dropped?
I picked it up from the thread following the poll on throttles Lemmy. I wasn't too sure either, the reason I included it was I have experienced something similar, I was forced to run close to the kerb by a bus, I could keep momentum and stability without pedaling. I will however re-word.

All the best

David