can bosch prove a dongle has been used

[soundwave]

nope and thats proof from Bosch them self so any retailer refusing warranty for using one take them to court as will not be able to provide proof that 1 has been used on a bike or not in any court of law.

retailers like ebike shop will offer warranty wonder why lol.

 

[shemozzle999]

retailers like ebike shop will offer warranty wonder why lol.

I suggest you read page 9:

http://www.imba-europe.org/sites/default/files/BOSCH eBike_future development of e-MTB in Europe.pdf

 

[Wicky]

When the Bosch diagnostic reader finds built in log records showing a relatively low milage and an associated increase in charge cycles compared to normal it won't be hard to figure out that something's been fiddled with...

 

[1boris]

When the Bosch diagnostic reader finds built in log records showing a relatively low milage and an associated increase in charge cycles compared to normal it won't be hard to figure out that something's been fiddled with...

Doesent prove anything.Maybe I have lots of very steep hills and use turbo only.And then I use the bike unassisted everywhere else for example

 

[SteveRuss]

nope and thats proof from Bosch them self so any retailer refusing warranty for using one take them to court as will not be able to provide proof that 1 has been used on a bike or not in any court of law.

I must brush up on my German..

 

[Geebee]

so any retailer refusing warranty for using one take them to court as will not be able to provide proof that 1 has been used on a bike or not in any court of law.

So you would be quite happy to lie under oath?

 

[Kudoscycles]

It's called being honest.
KudosDave

 

[soundwave]

So you would be quite happy to lie under oath?

can they prove im lying tho, thats the point because they cant

 

[Wicky]

So you would be quite happy to lie under oath?

can they prove im lying tho, thats the point because they cant

"well i left my bike in turbo mode and hammered it around all day with the dongle on and well it goes further than i even thought." soundwave,Jun 29, 2015 > http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/a-working-dongle-at-last.16189/page-8

Let's hope for your sake the Germans haven't got the interweb.... ;-)

 

[soundwave]

now with English subs thanks to black ped.com

 

[soundwave]

you get more errors from nyon than a dongle lol

 

[paul20v]

I suggest you read page 9:

http://www.imba-europe.org/sites/default/files/BOSCH eBike_future development of e-MTB in Europe.pdf

So the way that reads , any dealer fitting dongles is going against there contract with bosch

 

[shemozzle999]

So the way that reads , any dealer fitting dongles is going against there contract with bosch

The code of practice is what Bosch is trying to achieve and it will tie dealers to its rules if introduced.

The dongle maker has only created a hardware fix it does not have full access to the software system, if it did then the fix could be done without any new hardware. I doubt if any Dealer or OEM have full access to the Bosch software system.

 

[paul20v]

The code of practice is what Bosch is trying to achieve and it will tie dealers to its rules if introduced.

The dongle maker has only created a hardware fix it does not have full access to the software system, if it did then the fix could be done without any new hardware. I doubt if any Dealer or OEM have full access to the Bosch software system.

I'm totally against the dongle's , I'm a firm believer that it's only doing harm to the ebike reputation and obviously the law side of thing's come into play as well , each to there own thou

 

[shemozzle999]

each to there own thou

My view as well, but I will keep posting the relevant facts as I find them.

One niggle though is this thread should really be in the other section of the forum.

 

[WorldClassAccident]

Chip free chipping or Dongle free dongling if you prefer described towards the end of this page. Can this affect the warranty?

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/go-faster-dongles-heres-another-to-consider.15405/page-3