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I'm too slow that took about an hour and a half, I would just be one of the traditional starving artists!
Can I encourage you to have a go yourself? at least take up drawing things around you, it is very relaxing and yet engaging at the same.
I'd have to attempt it while learning how to do so in an arts class of some sort, there are local night classes, and if I do attempt drawing people I’ll PM my poor showings to you because they will no doubt be wholly unsuitable for public threads lol. I knew a girl who discovered after sustaining serious injuries that she could draw strikingly accurate line drawing likenesses of anyone she saw from memory, I'd never seen anything like her drawings before: where most people sketch with short strokes she'd score the page with deep, long continuous and definite accurate lines as a computer would. There was no shading, it really was like each drawing was produced by a machine. The accident was a gruesome one when she was younger, there may have been some brain damage - pet rottweiler attacked her, chewed her face and head and ragged her around, but you couldn't tell that anything had happened by looking at her, the surgeons had done a fantastic job - she was a pretty girl, her nickname was “Angel features”. Some physical injury in her brain gave rise an astonishing new skill. They were line photographs, not at all like drawings.

I really couldn’t work out your photo – usually flashes produce harsh shadows in portraits like that, and those shadows looked diffused… the only way to produce such shaped flashes is by using a snood to make the circle of illumination, but the shadows would have been sharp, therefore a diffuse light source from further away? But that would be hard to produce in that shape. Aha! The sun, a window and the camera exposing for extreme centre brightness in a relatively dark room. Nice job! That could be an album cover or the cover of your picture book of your art, that you will self-publish on Amazon.
 
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He makes no mention of weed - so it's just no-really-dirty highly engineered bass (that cuuute little new Roland Hybrid? Maybe Virus VST), but created compressed and crafted specifically to play without apparent loss of recognisable timbre when played through a large variety of cheaper low end and mid range small speakers, while at the same time retaining impressive bass range when played back through much larger and better quality speakers; and maybe weed then.
 

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I'd have to attempt it while learning how to do so in an arts class of some sort, there are local night classes, and if I do attempt drawing people I’ll PM my poor showings to you because they will no doubt be wholly unsuitable for public threads lol. I knew a girl who discovered after sustaining serious injuries that she could draw strikingly accurate line drawing likenesses of anyone she saw from memory, I'd never seen anything like her drawings before: where most people sketch with short strokes she'd score the page with deep, long continuous and definite accurate lines as a computer would. There was no shading, it really was like each drawing was produced by a machine. The accident was a gruesome one when she was younger, there may have been some brain damage - pet rottweiler attacked her, chewed her face and head and ragged her around, but you couldn't tell that anything had happened by looking at her, the surgeons had done a fantastic job - she was a pretty girl, her nickname was “Angel features”. Some physical injury in her brain gave rise an astonishing new skill. They were line photographs, not at all like drawings.

I really couldn’t work out your photo – usually flashes produce harsh shadows in portraits like that, and those shadows looked diffused… the only way to produce such shaped flashes is by using a snood to make the circle of illumination, but the shadows would have been sharp, therefore a diffuse light source from further away? But that would be hard to produce in that shape. Aha! The sun, a window and the camera exposing for extreme centre brightness in a relatively dark room. Nice job! That could be an album cover or the cover of your picture book of your art, that you will self-publish on Amazon.
Once again, thank you, and I look forward to seeing some examples of your work. :cool:
 
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One shouldn't generalise, but from my last visit to Moscow I'd say a large fraction of the Russian public are pre obese and obese middle class types with a penchant for tacky designer jewelry, large flabby one might say vulgar white BMW's that are past their prime and telly talk shows. Not unlike Mancunians really. Suffering is not on their agenda. The wiry self effacing survivalists of stalingrad you describe are a figment of history.
Agreed, they've gone as soft as the British and Americans.

But these are temporary states and over a far shorter period for the Russians, not even two decades.
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US Doomsday Plane Spotted Flying Over Nebraska Airspace



Soon, god's farts will be visible

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Can we please have more mirror alignment and less political alignment (Putin style).
This entire thread is nothing but competing political alignments! And some baking, art and goodness knows what else, plus every subject under the sun and beyond...
 

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One shouldn't generalise, but from my last visit to Moscow I'd say a large fraction of the Russian public are pre obese and obese middle class types with a penchant for tacky designer jewelry, large flabby one might say vulgar white BMW's that are past their prime and telly talk shows. Not unlike Mancunians really. Suffering is not on their agenda. The wiry self effacing survivalists of stalingrad you describe are a figment of history.
Perhaps we should ensure that, in contrast to banks, accountants, social media, air transport, etc., which are all being blocked from Russia, we actively encourage MacD, KFC (Kremlin Fried Chicken?), BK, etc., to open more and more branches in Russia?
 
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Flecc.. you really have lost it .. Ukraine did not have any idyllic sojourn over the last 100 years. Obviously the war period under Nazis was terrible as was also the 1930 s an the Moscow induced famines. They did fair somewhat better under Krushov.. obvious reason.

Even if the NATO block were obnoxious , they never actually made Ukraine a member . The invasion of Crimea was arguable. The Russian invasion of the Donbass was intended provocation in 2014. Probably had Ukraine given Crimea, Putin would have given back Donbass. Yes there is a minority who are pro Moscow. Well there is a minority in South Co Dublin who are Pro Brit as there is an enclave in West Cork.. Cynical politicians work up these senses of grievances ..and in the case of Donbass they had to bus in support.
There is only one entity responsible for the blood letting in Ukraine this fortnight and its not Ukraine. Its not the USA or even UK . Part of me wishes that they had surrendered abjectly, because I could foresee this carnage as soon as the invasion happened. But it was evident that Putin wanted it all.
No I haven't lost it, you've bought all the Western propangada since the late 1980s and seem to have a complete blank about the US covert interference in Russian affairs in 1999 and in Ukraine in 2003/4 that has led directly to this Ukraine war.

In stark contrast I haven't bought any of the propaganda from either side, but through closely following events over the whole three decade period understand how both sides, Russia and the USA, are guilty. And the guilt started with the USA in both cases.

I agree with your last two sentences:

"Part of me wishes that they had surrendered abjectly, because I could foresee this carnage as soon as the invasion happened. But it was evident that Putin wanted it all."

since as you know from the outset I wanted the Ukrainians to bow to the inevitable to avoid this immense human harm and structural destruction. But while I agree Putin wanted it all, that doesn't mean he wouldn't have settled for less.

I know he would have since I know how reasonable he can be. Most of you in this thread are so busy foaming at the mouth about what he's just done you seem to have lost all senses of reason and memory.

Who the hell do you think brought about the miracle of converting Russia from its austere and forbidding post USSR condition to its modern western style condition of the last decade or so? Shops stuffed with Western goods, including the luxuries. Streets filled with cars, mostly western, Russians with much higher living standards.

It was Putin and his alter ego Medvedev rotating in power who did all that. That wasn't the action of USSR obsessed hard line communists, it was their pragmatism, and Medvedev in particular is well known to be a liberal.

Clearly we could have dealings with people who demonstrate such pragmatism, but the USA has never wanted that, due to their obsessive hatred of anything left wing. Instead they are insistent on having their own total control of the world order, with NATO as the instrument to achieve that. Just as they are currently doing with China, developing a future cold war.
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This entire thread is nothing but competing political alignments! And some baking, art and goodness knows what else, plus every subject under the sun and beyond...
Yes - but we don't do so Putin-style, do we? I haven't been pounded by artillery, missiles, etc.
 
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Yes - but we don't do so Putin-style, do we? I haven't been pounded by artillery, missiles, etc.
I certainly hope that doesn't happen to you in your lifetime, or mine. I really couldn't cope.
 

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I certainly hope that doesn't happen to you in your lifetime, or mine. I really couldn't cope.
Well, I have seen tanks, artillery, personnel carriers, and soldiers densely packed down the main thoroughfares of a city. And a very heightened alert level all round.

That was when I went from West Berlin to East Berlin the day after the Berlin Wall was established.
 
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I was reading yesterday about how the extended "hacker" army is doing all sorts of things like positively identifying Russian military equipment, status, locations. And precisely geotagging photos.
 
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Yes - but we don't do so Putin-style, do we? I haven't been pounded by artillery, missiles, etc.
Libya, Iraq twice, Syria, Afghanistan.

Plus all the many US proxy wars since WW2.

Oyster, it's bad enough all the others who have convenient memory blanks in this thread. Don't you join them.
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Libya, Iraq twice, Syria, Afghanistan.

Plus all the many US proxy wars since WW2.

Oyster, it's bad enough all the others who have convenient memory blanks in this thread. Don't you join them.
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I meant, we who are on this thread. Not we, as in the entire world outside Russian control.
 
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Perhaps we should ensure that, in contrast to banks, accountants, social media, air transport, etc., which are all being blocked from Russia, we actively encourage MacD, KFC (Kremlin Fried Chicken?), BK, etc., to open more and more branches in Russia?
I note what I have just read after lots of companies introducing boycotts:

McDonald’s Corp and PepsiCo Inc are among companies continuing to operate in Russia, prompting New York state’s pension fund - a shareholder in the pair - to urge them to consider pausing their operations there.
 
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Nacheap says: We stand with our friends and colleagues in Ukraine during this heinous assault on their freedom, their independence and their lives.

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Well, I have seen tanks, artillery, personnel carriers, and soldiers densely packed down the main thoroughfares of a city. And a very heightened alert level all round.

That was when I went from West Berlin to East Berlin the day after the Berlin Wall was established.
You went West to East? And now you live in Wales... Who ARE you oyster? What the heck were you doing going West to East and why? (I'm Herr Starmer, I ask da kvestions! ;))
 

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