We can disagree on their utility. I see them used by commuters , not shoppers .. We can totally agree about the futility of backpacks, ..but I see them in constant use by cyclists. I have always used carrier mounted bags. Many scooters will have a small front carrier suitable for a handbag... Or will when the women start using them. Men have basically given up on carrying laptops to and from work.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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The world of the Telegraph is bizarre
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Shop shelves have been empty of basic supplies, while petrol stations have run out of fuel as the NHS Test and Trace app threatens to bring parts of the economy to a standstill https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/21/pingdemic-means-supermarket-supply-chains-starting-fail/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1626897788
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Why hasn't Europe suffered in the same way when they have Test and Trace too?
Admit it: Brexit is the reason for the problem, stop lying about it's effects in the Telegraph.
Will the shelves magically fill without test and trace?
Meanwhile I rather liked this
The Telegraph @Telegraph
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Shop shelves have been empty of basic supplies, while petrol stations have run out of fuel as the NHS Test and Trace app threatens to bring parts of the economy to a standstill https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/21/pingdemic-means-supermarket-supply-chains-starting-fail/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1626897788
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Why hasn't Europe suffered in the same way when they have Test and Trace too?
Admit it: Brexit is the reason for the problem, stop lying about it's effects in the Telegraph.
Will the shelves magically fill without test and trace?
Meanwhile I rather liked this
I've heard there are some spare robots available from Ocado - maybe they could to the actual shelf-filling (almost magically) for as long as they don't crash and burn.
My tweet on response to empty supermarket shelves due to the "pingdemic"
Replying to
@LBC and @mrjamesob
No doubt way back at the time of the Great fire of London there would have been complaints about the number of scaremongers running around shouting FIRE! causing the Night soil collection service not to turn up on schedule
Replying to
@LBC and @mrjamesob
No doubt way back at the time of the Great fire of London there would have been complaints about the number of scaremongers running around shouting FIRE! causing the Night soil collection service not to turn up on schedule
“nobody had any idea the actual effects of [the Protocol] until we left the EU”.
Kwasi Kwarteng.
Obviously nobody in the leave camp noticed that the EU has a list of products that are restricted or banned to import.
"Anyone who is sure that Brexit is a good idea has got a screw loose."
Dom. Cummings.
They should have read this thread before signing the deal, I suppose.
Kwasi Kwarteng.
Obviously nobody in the leave camp noticed that the EU has a list of products that are restricted or banned to import.
"Anyone who is sure that Brexit is a good idea has got a screw loose."
Dom. Cummings.
They should have read this thread before signing the deal, I suppose.
The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, has rejected Boris Johnson’s move to renegotiate the Northern Irish protocol, raising the temperature of a simmering Brexit row.
“The EU will continue to be creative and flexible within the protocol framework. But we will not renegotiate,” she said after a call with the prime minister on Thursday.
Johnson, the NIP and GFA aren't like marriage where you swear until death do us part but ignore that after a few months. It is where words really do have meaning and wrong words have bad consequences. There really isn't an amicable divorce option available...
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You don't need to put "With respect" - that comes across as if you are just about to insult me.
I know you have said that. Now I have also said it!
I am reporting you both to that Deputy Speaker lady. kindly leave the room and when you come back remember Brexit voters may accidentally stumble upon this thread, and exchanges of that tone will pass over their heads higher than the two billionaire would be Flash Gordon's did.You don't need to put "With respect" - that comes across as if you are just about to insult me.
I know you have said that. Now I have also said it!
Oyster.. with respect ,I don't insult people I respect.You don't need to put "With respect" - that comes across as if you are just about to insult me.
I know you have said that. Now I have also said it!
Well with respect , in that case I won't invite you to my next Sado Masochist party night!
Did I just manage to dodge a particularly big bullet?
Trouble is, the phrase "With respect", and many others which superfically appear polite, or very polite, are widely used facetiously. Not saying you did.
Any slow speed is stable as long as you have a foot available to put on the ground. I think (assuming they are allowed in pedestrian areas such as pavements at all, and they probably shouldn't be) that the rule should be no assist when on the pavement, real scooting only allowed, 3 mph speed limit on the pavement.
With all due respect that's rather like describing someone as
"The Right Honourable Member"!
I suspect that the problem is not she stability of the machine, rather that of the simple organism nominally in charge of the device
I think considering legalising these things has been a disaster, letting the cat out of the bag.
Yesterday driving to Warlingham I saw two in quick succession that made me raise my eyebrows.
The first was ridden by a young boy around 7 years, on the pavement alongside his briskly walking mother. So much for only on the road with a driving licence.
The second, also on the pavement alongside friends, was being ridden by a young man around 19/20 years old. His powerful looking scooter had a post rising from the platform for the saddle he was sitting on. That of course made it totally illegal since that classifies it legally as a motorcycle.
There are so many of them now and mostly being used illegally, I can't see how the authorities are ever going to get back control.
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I agree with you on both counts. Which is why I believe they will be legalised. Now whatever about ones capable of excess of 15 mph being got at as motorcycles , the smaller ones will have a future.