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Isn't it strange that the deadliest disease of all kills almost 100% of it's victims in huge numbers and no one wants to talk about it?

(ONS) reported today that a total of 67,641 deaths were attributed to dementia and Alzheimer's last year - up from 62,948 the year before.
 
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They do indeed. But those outside looking in claim otherwise!

And carbon capture, as being promoted, I find deeply questionable. Schemes like pumping down oil wells. If it leaks out, we could be worse off. Only tightly bound can it possibly work. Like a new Cretaceous period!
Off topic (but good way to kill time while we wait for boris' most recent massive fuckup to flower), but it made me think of seeding oceans with ferro oxide, the azolla event and running on 130 million year old sub tropical seabed from the cretaceous (used to live in chilterns)
 
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Off topic (but good way to kill time while we wait for boris' most recent massive fuckup to flower), but it made me think of seeding oceans with ferro oxide, the azolla event and running on 130 million year old sub tropical seabed from the cretaceous (used to live in chilterns)
At least you are only killing time.

And thank goodness I have at last escaped hard tap water. Tea and coffee with virtually no scale.
 

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Isn't it strange that the deadliest disease of all kills almost 100% of it's victims in huge numbers and no one wants to talk about it?

(ONS) reported today that a total of 67,641 deaths were attributed to dementia and Alzheimer's last year - up from 62,948 the year before.
Was on my mother's and step father's death certificates.

And there is much fear among hypothyroid patients that they will get mis-diagnosed with some form of dementia. There is a very questionable "idea" that older people don't need their thyroid hormones at as high a level as younger adults. (The evidence is rubbish. It isn't science, it is misunderstanding of biochemistry and statistics.) Therefore, doctors are reducing or withdrawing thyroid hormone - sometimes after these people have been taking it for decades. Unfortunately, inadequate thyroid hormone can readily be mistaken for some forms of dementia. It becomes a case of reduced or removed thyroid hormone somehow resulting in a false diagnosis.
 
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Populist? No, of course not, but if England win I'll declare a bank holiday...

What a ridiculous thing to do.

I just wondered if I should dash out and buy some stamps ready to overprint... (No, Royal Mail haven't done a special stamp, so that's a non-starter.)
 
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Don't get too excited, it's Italy next, and our record against them at football is rather poor.

We were very lucky with that soft penalty last night, lots of referees wouldn't have given it, hence the Danish players fury.
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I think the England team is going to have a tough game against Italy. I’d have disqualified them for the “fans” booing the Danish National Anthem. Disgusting & infantile, but that’s football.
 

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It doesn’t matter if they re-ignite, you are just as dead after the first fire. In fact, the second and third fires could save on cremation costs. What’s not to like? Stop whittling.
Hmm, if the batteries still have some power in them, could we attach a blade to the motor and add an auto-cremulator facility?
 
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Don't get too excited, it's Italy next, and our record against them at football is rather poor.

We were very lucky with that soft penalty last night, lots of referees wouldn't have given it, hence the Danish players fury.
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Yes, very lucky to win: by a Danish own goal and a penalty even the English commentator seemed to think shouldn't have been given. I didn't see most of the match and am very ignorant on technical details, but England did look the better side from what I did see.
 
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I think the England team is going to have a tough game against Italy. I’d have disqualified them for the “fans” booing the Danish National Anthem. Disgusting & infantile, but that’s football.
The laser pointer was sufficient, in my opinion.

Fill the stadium with a very slight mist and photographs will "see" the line of light going directly between goalkeeper's eye and the pointer.
 
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Yes, very lucky to win: by a Danish own goal and a penalty even the English commentator seemed to think shouldn't have been given. I didn't see most of the match and am very ignorant on technical details, but England did look the better side from what I did see.
My knowledge of soccer is on a par with that of my knowledge of British Regional Politics, which is to say, pathetic, but I did watch the game.
Yes the first English Goal was an OG, .. but England would have scored because there was a player lined up to take it had it passed the Dane.
The penalty was very well defended, .. laser blinded or not, and the subsequent goal was very real. Whether the penalty should not have been given, I am less convinced than other pundits.. There was a Danish leg a few strides before fall..so maybe Geneva got it right.
 

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Except that these batteries can self ignite several times, as has been proven by actual accidents

Electric vehicle fires can take 3,000 gallons and 24 hours to extinguish

This is interesting
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Irrelevant as far as e-car are concerned.

The lithium battery fires all concerned high density small cells like those used in e-bikes, laptops etc.

Tesla being the first to create a lithium batteried car unwisely used these in very large numbers too, 6,200 of them in their sports car, and suffered fires in consequence. Hence your two links are both from Tesla. But they learned their lesson and now do like all other makers.

E-cars use smaller numbers of large low density cells which by their nature are far safer since they aren't inclined to form the lithium crystals that cause the fire problem. They are far less stressed anyway, since they spend almost all their life working at a fraction of their potential.

As for the fire brigade, they are worse than ROSPA, constantly pumping out hysterical nonsense. The British fire brigades have never had to deal with any e-car traction battery fire in any of our over half a million e-cars.

Almost all the Tesla fires occurred in the USA and the only British involvement is that one of them in Los Angeles was being driven by a British TV film director. And anyway, even Tesla's few fires only equate to one every 205 million miles travelled by their cars

E-car fires, like the myth of range anxiety, are both only suffered in the minds of people who've never owned an e-car and know nothing about them.
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Yes the first English Goal was an OG, .. but England would have scored because there was a player lined up to take it had it passed the Dane.
Such chances are very often missed, so you cannot assume that.

Whether the penalty should not have been given, I am less convinced than other pundits.. There was a Danish leg a few strides before fall..so maybe Geneva got it right.
Or maybe not. Players learned long ago that taking a dive after any brief contact can pay off, and Harry Kane is no angel in this respect as I've often seen.

It was very far from a decisive outcome and I'd rather have seen it go to penalties.
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Irrelevant as far as e-car are concerned.

The lithium battery fires all concerned high density small cells like those used in e-bikes, laptops etc.

Tesla being the first to create a lithium batteried car unwisely used these in very large numbers too, 6,200 of them in their sports car, and suffered fires in consequence. Hence your two links are both from Tesla. But they learned their lesson and now do like all other makers.

E-cars use smaller numbers of large low density cells which by their nature are far safer since they aren't inclined to form the lithium crystals that cause the fire problem. They are far less stressed anyway, since they spend almost all their life working at a fraction of their potential.

As for the fire brigade, they are worse than ROSPA, constantly pumping out hysterical nonsense. The British fire brigades have never had to deal with any e-car traction battery fire in any of our over half a million e-cars.

Almost all the Tesla fires occurred in the USA and the only British involvement is that one of them in Los Angeles was being driven by a British TV film director. And anyway, even Tesla's few fires only equate to one every 205 million miles travelled by their cars

E-car fires, like the myth of range anxiety, are both only suffered in the minds of people who've never owned an e-car and know nothing about them.
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And of course Fire Brigades
Not that they know anything of course
"We've had enough of experts"
 
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And of course Fire Brigades
Not that they know anything of course
"We've had enough of experts"
As posted, our fire brigades have never dealt with an e-car traction battery fire, so they know absolutely nothing about them other than what they've read.

So they are certainly not experts in that field, not even beginners.

Even the US Department of Transport with their knowledge of the Tesla fires have concluded that e-vehicles present no greater fire risk than any other vehicles.
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Post Office launch "Save Our Cash" day

To stop the cashless society from going too far. I totally agree with this, we are increasingly in danger of being unable to access any of our own money without being charged to get it.

And there are so many things we cannot do without cash. We can't give to charity boxes and cans or informal local collections. We can't give tips for good service without them being stolen by the businesses employing the person we wanted to tip. And how do we give kids pocket money if there's no cash?

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Post Office launch "Save Our Cash" day

To stop the cashless society from going too far. I totally agree with this, we are increasingly in danger of being unable to access any of our own money without being charged to get it.

And there are so many things we cannot do without cash. We can't give to charity boxes and cans or informal local collections. We can't give tips for good service without them being stolen by the businesses employing the person we wanted to tip. And how do we give kids pocket money if there's no cash?

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Last year, during/after first lockdown, I effectively ran out of coins. (Usually I keep plenty for things like parking and, as you say, tips.) Then it was difficult to re-stock! Shops which accepted cash often simply didn't have sufficient to convert to coins. Banks had long queues which I didn't want to join.

Yes - I agree that we need to preserve cash. Free to use ATMs are an absolute minimum - and not by relying on supermarkets.
 
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