Brexit, for once some facts.

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Surely someone has to take responsibility for death from the virus in UK care homes being 13 times higher than in German care homes.
Nope. No one takes responsibility for anything these days, not even themselves.

The entire strategy for the lifting of lockdown is constructed in such a way that nobody is responsible. There is no clarity, no guidance and no leadership. All we have is vague insinuations that we can do things, but there is no accompanying guidance. This is no oversight, it’s deliberate and it’s calculated, because when it all goes wrong, the government can step back and blame the public for acting recklessly. The public have stepped up to the mark in this regard at Bournemouth, Liverpool & Brixton. They’ve handed the cowardly yellow streak of pi$$ his Get Out Of Jail Free card.
 

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I wonder if he will spill any beans?

Mark Sedwill to stand down as UK's top civil servant
Cabinet secretary had been at odds with Dominic Cummings and a target of negative briefings
They are out of control. The only slightly warming news is that Starmer seems to have gained more trust from the public and opinions seem to suggest he is more popular than the cowardly yellow.... (you know the rest).
 

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They are out of control. The only slightly warming news is that Starmer seems to have gained more trust from the public and opinions seem to suggest he is more popular than the cowardly yellow.... (you know the rest).
Around the time of Cummings' rose garden mumble, it was put around that there wasn't much point chasing him down as he was likely to leave soon. I suspected it was a smoke and mirrors trick - and it was.
 
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Cumming's reference to Hard Rain just might be seen to apply to him.

While some have suggested that the refrain of the song refers to nuclear fallout, Dylan disputed that this was a specific reference. In a radio interview with Studs Terkel in 1963, Dylan said:

No, it's not atomic rain, it's just a hard rain. It isn't the fallout rain. I mean some sort of end that's just gotta happen ... In the last verse, when I say, "the pellets of poison are flooding the waters," that means all the lies that people get told on their radios and in their newspapers.
 

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it could mean that there are similar viruses to SARS -CoV-2.
If so, how similar in order to impact our immune systems? For example, a very similar virus might prime the immune system to cope better with SARS-CoV-2 but without being detectable using an antibody test. Something like that might be a part of the explanation of some people having next to no symptoms.
 
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If so, how similar in order to impact our immune systems? For example, a very similar virus might prime the immune system to cope better with SARS-CoV-2 but without being detectable using an antibody test. Something like that might be a part of the explanation of some people have next to no symptoms.
I don't think many scientists spend their time looking for a conspiracy. The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is that it kills a lot of people so it receives a lot of attention. Similar viruses and even precursors (it it's man made) that don't kill their carriers won't be tested and would go undetected.
 
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Anyone heard the story about covid being found in waste water samples from Barcelona collected in March 2019 !
Yes I did read it, but I suspect that it is basically noise. Fragments of other CVs . Unless they were able to isolate and grow CV19 on sterile plates coated with growth medium , from that source I would not believe
 

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