It's a difficult concept to imagine but it could solve a lot of problems universally over time.
Tom
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Alas our views on this matter are not the same, i see the fact that the Tory party managed to overlook at least ten previous assassinations as they didn't want to rock the boat, as an indication of an ulterior motive in leaping to the attack on this one when they desperately need a diversion from the disaster that Brexit has become, and a golden opportunity to sneak some agreements with the EU through under the Radar.
Too good a chance to be overlooked.
Interesting snippets of information keep surfacing
This from the Independent
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“Could somebody have smuggled something out?” said Amy Smithson, a chemical weapons expert at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies.
“I certainly wouldn’t rule that possibility out, especially a small amount and particularly in view of how lax the security was at Russian chemical facilities in the early 1990s.”
In 1995, a Russian banking magnate called Ivan Kivelidi and his secretary died from organ failure after being poisoned with a military grade toxin found on an office telephone.
A closed trial found that his business partner had obtained the substance via intermediaries from an employee of a state chemical research institute known as GosNIIOKhT, which was involved in the development of Novichoks.
The employee, Leonard Rink, told police he had been storing poisons in his garage and selling them to pay off debts."
Every day in every way the matter gets more confusing. and the official line less convincing.
This from the Independent
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“Could somebody have smuggled something out?” said Amy Smithson, a chemical weapons expert at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies.
“I certainly wouldn’t rule that possibility out, especially a small amount and particularly in view of how lax the security was at Russian chemical facilities in the early 1990s.”
In 1995, a Russian banking magnate called Ivan Kivelidi and his secretary died from organ failure after being poisoned with a military grade toxin found on an office telephone.
A closed trial found that his business partner had obtained the substance via intermediaries from an employee of a state chemical research institute known as GosNIIOKhT, which was involved in the development of Novichoks.
The employee, Leonard Rink, told police he had been storing poisons in his garage and selling them to pay off debts."
Every day in every way the matter gets more confusing. and the official line less convincing.
Make sure the keep away from any Garages owned by the Russians in your area flecc!
And wear "Marigolds" You can't be too careful!
And wear "Marigolds" You can't be too careful!
Just when you think it can't get worse, the Cretin who is supposed to deal with foreign affairs opens his big mouth
This from the BBC
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Spy poisoning: Russia stockpiling nerve agent, says Johnson"
Russia has been stockpiling the nerve agent used in the attack on an ex-spy and his daughter for a decade, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has said.
He also dismissed a suggestion by Russia's EU ambassador that the agent might have come from a UK laboratory.
Vladimir Chizhov had said the Porton Down lab in Wiltshire may have been the source of the substance."
Boris, do us all a big favour and leave the country: yesterday would be nice, but today will do.
Your job is to represent the interests of this country.
As far as I know that doesn't mean causing the cold war to start up again.
This from the BBC
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Spy poisoning: Russia stockpiling nerve agent, says Johnson"
Russia has been stockpiling the nerve agent used in the attack on an ex-spy and his daughter for a decade, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has said.
He also dismissed a suggestion by Russia's EU ambassador that the agent might have come from a UK laboratory.
Vladimir Chizhov had said the Porton Down lab in Wiltshire may have been the source of the substance."
Boris, do us all a big favour and leave the country: yesterday would be nice, but today will do.
Your job is to represent the interests of this country.
As far as I know that doesn't mean causing the cold war to start up again.
No there's no risk, Russians are lovely people and I've often popped into the Russian restaurant opposite the Brompton Oratory for a bowl of the delicious Bortsch that only the Russians really know how to make.Make sure the keep away from any Garages owned by the Russians in your area flecc!
If ever I do feel threatened by one, I'll just dangle a bottle of vodka in front of him. This transfixes them, rather like wind music does to a cobra.
Come to think of it, maybe that will be the next Russian dirty trick. Wiring up the cabinet room and playing wind music to the government's emergency Cobra committee.
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Has anyone any idea of what the Government hope to achieve with this confrontation with Russia?
Perhaps May's gambling that to make peace, Putin will invite her on a Russian State visit, consolidating her as an important world leader.
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Hilarious and in the Sun
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IS PUTIN A PUPPET?
Russia is secretly being run by a ‘criminal gang’ which may now have more power than Vladimir Putin himself, exiled oligarch claims
Mikhail Khodorkovsky said the Russian president may not have been personally behind the poisoning of ex-spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury, Wilts
Well now, what validity can be given to that lot?
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IS PUTIN A PUPPET?
Russia is secretly being run by a ‘criminal gang’ which may now have more power than Vladimir Putin himself, exiled oligarch claims
Mikhail Khodorkovsky said the Russian president may not have been personally behind the poisoning of ex-spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury, Wilts
Well now, what validity can be given to that lot?
Well that possibility was offered from the off which Russia chose to ignore....
"...either it was a direct act by the Russian state against our country, or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others."
Experts from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) will arrive in the UK on Monday to test samples of the chemical.
That should keep Corbyn and Putin happy that procedures are being followed correctly.
Not surprising they'd ignore it, incriminating either way, making them either criminal or incompetent.
It's akin to the banned legal cross examionation traps, such as "When did you stop beating your wife".
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Didn't you get the memo? You are leaving the EU and joining the Russian federation, this is just the smoke screen to justify them invading you. Next week...
He doesn't have the "excuse" of having had thyroid issues as a child.
(I prefer not to use that highly specific term as a general insult/disparagement.)
the dictionary gives the word a dual meaning
And comments like Boris's can backfire big time
Britain depends on supplies from Russia.
And Russia isn’t afraid to suddenly cut off gas supplies.
Putin previously cut off gas to Europe by about 60%, which sparked an energy crisis on the continent.
It is believed he made the rash decision after his orders to invade neighbouring Georgia in 2008 were swiftly condemned by the international community.
Hence my "I prefer ..." - largely on account of my experience of thyroid issues.
Better get some Vodka in then?Didn't you get the memo? You are leaving the EU and joining the Russian federation, this is just the smoke screen to justify them invading you. Next week...
A little off topic amusement
on this site I spotted a new word for light snow.....Snizzle
Here's the site, giving current snowing information
http://uksnowmap.com/#/map-zoom-in
on this site I spotted a new word for light snow.....Snizzle
Here's the site, giving current snowing information
http://uksnowmap.com/#/map-zoom-in