Brexit, for once some facts.

50Hertz

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Everything will be Brexits fault forever.

We will get used to it. In time we will laugh about it.
As you know, I do believe that Brexit poses a risk to business and jobs, that is just my opinion and I could be wrong. However, there is a tendency to blame all things bad on Brexit no matter how flimsy the evidence or how tenuous the link. I think FlyBMI failed due to poor management and slowness in adapting to the changing airline market and trends. Given the choice between admitting to poor management or just shoving it into Brexit, which do you think the company will choose?
 
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When she left the U.K., she was old enough to be responsible for criminal acts. She has also been an adult for some time now, but only wanted to return to the U.K. once her initial plans had failed.

There may well have been grooming involved in the initial stages, in fact that is more likely than not. The problem is that she is now a menace. A person who is unmoved and has total emotional detachment from the horrors of seeing bins full of severed heads can’t be risked amongst the public. In her own words, she stated that ghastly spectre of heads in bins did not phase her.

I’m afraid she should remain and be abandoned where she is. The child must repatriated in secret to and placed in appropriate care, again in secret.

No need for the use of block capitals.
The UK has one of the lowest ages for criminal responsibility in the world . So I would not take that as the gold standard
 
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jonathan.agnew

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When she left the U.K., she was old enough to be responsible for criminal acts. She has also been an adult for some time now, but only wanted to return to the U.K. once her initial plans had failed.

There may well have been grooming involved in the initial stages, in fact that is more likely than not. The problem is that she is now a menace. A person who is unmoved and has total emotional detachment from the horrors of seeing bins full of severed heads can’t be risked amongst the public. In her own words, she stated that ghastly spectre of heads in bins did not phase her.

I’m afraid she should remain and be abandoned where she is. The child must repatriated in secret to and placed in appropriate care, again in secret.

No need for the use of block capitals.
you do seem to be confusing your runaway (and grisly)fantasies with the facts inasmuch as they are known..
 
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Danidl

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As you know, I do believe that Brexit poses a risk to business and jobs, that is just my opinion and I could be wrong. However, there is a tendency to blame all things bad on Brexit no matter how flimsy the evidence or how tenuous the link. I think FlyBMI failed due to poor management and slowness in adapting to the changing airline market and trends. Given the choice between admitting to poor management or just shoving it into Brexit, which do you think the company will choose?
Again perhaps but it usually takes an external event to push the vulnerable over the edge. Perhaps they just did not have the resources to weather a Brexit.
 
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50Hertz

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Again perhaps but it usually takes an external event to push the vulnerable over the edge. Perhaps they just did not have the resources to weather a Brexit.
I’d go as far as saying Brexit brought forward the inevitable. It was always on the cards and Brexit arrived at a convenient time to save embarrassment.
 
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50Hertz

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The UK has one of the lowest ages for criminal responsibility in the world . So I would not take that as the gold standard
I think if I were to be prosecuted for an offence anywhere in the world, I’d rather the trial take place in the U.K. Shamima Begum seems keen to take her chances here too, so UK laws & justice system must have something going for it.
 
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Well. Tommy. As much as I go along with your posts..... this one I gotta say hang on my friend. I think we're NOT turning into a cesspit for the very reason that you and I are able to talk about this stuff out in the open as it were - and that this lady if and when she comes back - will indeed face whatever consequences are coming her way.

But until then we must play by the rules we have all agreed.

Its what the referendum was all about - establishing the rules. And then once they're established - we live by them. As I said earlier - anything else and all you have is anarchy.
Pity then that we are progressing on the basis of an unlawful referendum result due to criminal activities skewing the decision
 

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Another hefty reduction in government income. Brexit-related?

UK's richest man moves to Monaco to 'save £4bn in tax'
Brexiter Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s company Ineos is reportedly working with PricewaterhouseCoopers to reduce bill
Britain’s richest man, the Brexit supporter Sir Jim Ratcliffe, and two of his key lieutenants at chemicals firm Ineos have reportedly been planning to save up to £4bn in tax after moving to Monaco.

The company, which is valued at about £35bn, is working with tax experts at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) to create a new structure for the business to dramatically reduce the tax paid on its global revenues, according to the Sunday Times.

Ratcliffe, who has lobbied to weaken green taxes and reduce restrictions on fracking, owns 60% of Ineos, which made profits of more than £2.2bn last year and employs 18,500 people. His top two lieutenants at Ineos, Andy Currie and John Reece, each own 20% of the company worth £7bn and were also reported to be moving to Monaco and involved in the tax avoidance plan.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/17/brexiter-jim-ratcliffe-uk-richest-man-plans-save-4bn-pounds-tax-monaco-move
 

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If you want to make yourself seem even more juvenile than usual , by all means do.
I, d have thought you, d appreciate being exiled what with Brexit and Tory government. I, m sure a few on here would contribute to your travel expenses. I dont see you making it as an ISIS bride tho, but you never can tell..
 
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Another hefty reduction in government income. Brexit-related?

UK's richest man moves to Monaco to 'save £4bn in tax'
Brexiter Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s company Ineos is reportedly working with PricewaterhouseCoopers to reduce bill
Britain’s richest man, the Brexit supporter Sir Jim Ratcliffe, and two of his key lieutenants at chemicals firm Ineos have reportedly been planning to save up to £4bn in tax after moving to Monaco.


The company, which is valued at about £35bn, is working with tax experts at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) to create a new structure for the business to dramatically reduce the tax paid on its global revenues, according to the Sunday Times.

Ratcliffe, who has lobbied to weaken green taxes and reduce restrictions on fracking, owns 60% of Ineos, which made profits of more than £2.2bn last year and employs 18,500 people. His top two lieutenants at Ineos, Andy Currie and John Reece, each own 20% of the company worth £7bn and were also reported to be moving to Monaco and involved in the tax avoidance plan.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/17/brexiter-jim-ratcliffe-uk-richest-man-plans-save-4bn-pounds-tax-monaco-move
Monaco and Andorra are French tax havens (Andorra 50/50 with Spain). Both will have to clean up their acts when the EU tax avoidance measures come into play. Surely PwC realise this?
 
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