Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Let's see; we haven't yet exited the EU and these events have occurred. It certainly doesn't bode well for the future of the UK:

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And the supreme irony? the Government accepts all this and still regards a two year old vote in a Advisory referedum as one of the Ten Commandments and is afraid to do what it has to do to save the nation from penury.
 

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Potentially we will lose access to radioactive isotopes for medical use due to the Euratom debacle. Could have a direct effect on lives.
it's not going to be like that.
Nobody is going to stop transport of radio sources for medical use.
 
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it's not going to be like that.
Nobody is going to stop transport of radio sources for medical use.
I would like to think not. But it is likely to cause distruption. Some of these compounds have very short half lives and all it takes is a few hours delay in customs . It's not that anyone would be stopping them, it's rather that they are not being enabled as a priority
 
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we have to copy the arrangement between Switzerland and Euratom.
A bit simplistic - we would also need to establish bilateral relationships with other countries which until now have been covered by Euratom, as I understand. Who knows how long they might take?
 
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Who knows how long they might take?
we will continue with the transition until we are ready.
by then, it may be time to vote again.
 

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We'll need a Referendum on leaving the Transition by that time!
I reckon a second referendum would happen before we really leave. Donald Tusk said more or less immediately in the aftermath of the EU ref, 'the only alternative of hard brexit is no brexit'. He knows of course how difficult and expensive leaving will be for us.
There is currently only one alternative for a tory government, a Labour government led by JC who looks already a bit tired and passed his sell by date.
This country needs someone who is forthright like JC, realistic like Grieve, energetic like Macron and wily like Blair.
 

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And in the Sunday Express?
"
BREXIT VICTORY: £600MILLION A WEEK to go to NHS in huge victory for Leave campaign
THERESA May will today promise a Brexit dividend of £600million a week for the NHS."

Needless to say this has delighted Brexit supporters as it was intended to, let's see how true it turns out to be!
I wonder where they will find the money?
Still it does kid the people on it is worth supporting this mad Brexit experiment and after all it was a lie the last time at £350 millions and the leave campaign got away with it.

But or once the Daily Mail has a different view
"
NHS to get extra £380m a WEEK as Theresa May 'signals end to a decade of austerity' as she vows to outdo Boris's Brexit bus pledge to help ailing service in a bid to hang on to power"

"In a bid to hang on to power?"
 
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"In a bid to hang on to power?"
there is nothing worse for a politician than to be caught lying.
Her time is up soon, she is hanging on by her fingernails.
I reckon we may have new GE in October.
 

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And with the latest interest in Banks and his oppo this in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/17/why-isnt-there-greater-outrage-about-russian-involvement-in-brexit

Interesting reading
It had long been obvious that Russia regarded the EU as something to be worried about. The expansion into the Baltic states was, possibly, the most obvious single step which they disliked. Why should anyone be surprised that they would do what they could to undermine it?
 
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