best chain for bbs02?

hello,

 

what's the best chain for bbs02 750w that will last many winters with rain? this one looks cheap and protet against corrosion but doesn't seem to be heavy duty:

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/cycling-parts/chains/clarks-anti-rust-7-8-bike-chain

Thats the chain I am using on mine and is better quality than the original chain on my Apollo Evade and also better than the "Tour de France" chain bought off ebay.

At less than £4 a time I am happy to replace my chain every 3 months and at the end of the day this will also prevent excess wear to the sprockets which,after all, are a lot more expensive.

Well, you'r buying from Halfords, and it is cheap, but I don't think it will be the best for your purpose ,,,we ask a lot from a chain, specially if you want too put 750W through it!

 

I am guessing you are running a derailleur so a hub gear chain wont cut it

are you using it with the bbs02 750W? i fear having premature wear of the chain.

 

Also chain wear will also affect crank and cassette teeth!

For my bbs01 350w with 9SP Deore I use Shimno XT HG93 from CRC, free postage.

Mine is on the BBS02.

I have done plenty of trails with it and plenty of wheelies on steep inclines and the chain has held up.

I would not use a 9 speed chain as they are thinner.

Kinninvie, what do you use for maintenance of the chain for long life? I suppose clean and lube frequently? (Which lube?)

 

And for how long have you been using the chain?

Purple Extreme http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif

 

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/purple-extreme-synthetic-lubricant/

 

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/tools/cycling-tools/chain-lubricant/product/review-purple-extreme-extreme-28381/

Purple Extreme http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif

 

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/purple-extreme-synthetic-lubricant/

 

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/tools/cycling-tools/chain-lubricant/product/review-purple-extreme-extreme-28381/

 

Oh great thanks.

 

Does it also protect against rain? And does the chain needs to be cleaned before lubricating? If so, anything you'd recommend?

Kinninvie, what do you use for maintenance of the chain for long life? I suppose clean and lube frequently? (Which lube?)

 

And for how long have you been using the chain?

I replace the chain every 3 months so dont need to lube it as the original lube lasts that long.

Its only £16 a year which is nothing compared to the cost of sprockets if you wear them out with a worn chain and of course the inconvienience of a snapped chain just does not bear thinking about!

Purple Extreme http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif

 

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/purple-extreme-synthetic-lubricant/

 

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/tools/cycling-tools/chain-lubricant/product/review-purple-extreme-extreme-28381/

 

Checking online and it looks like there is a competitor called "muved lube" that is way better than any other lube:

http://jordancheyne.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/screen-shot-2014-03-20-at-1-25-46-pm.png

 

Any thoughts?

I replace the chain every 3 months so dont need to lube it as the original lube lasts that long.

Its only £16 a year which is nothing compared to the cost of sprockets if you wear them out with a worn chain and of course the inconvienience of a snapped chain just does not bear thinking about!

 

But if you lube it properly I suppose it would save wear on both the chain and sprockets right?

No lube would be as good as the original as its put onto a perfectly clean surface.

You could re lube if you wanted but you should always clean the chain well as any particles of grit left on would turn your new lube into grinding paste.

 

When I lube the chain on my Dillenger bike I always take it off and wash it in a paraffin bath then blow it dry with a high pressure airgun.

I then leave it overnight to drain anything thats inside the links(hanging up) and finally coat it with chainsaw chain oil.

Edited November 9, 201411 yr by Kinninvie

Purple Extreme http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif

 

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/purple-extreme-synthetic-lubricant/

 

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/tools/cycling-tools/chain-lubricant/product/review-purple-extreme-extreme-28381/

 

Looks like ACF50

Over the years I have tried all sorts of lubrication. I found oils are very good at collecting and holding dirt, clogging the wheels of the derailier hanger and having a mucky chain. After a while the chain becomes stiff and far from flexible.

I made a deliberate choice of not lubricating the chain of my Delite. It is still as flexable as when it was new, the chain tensioner is clean, all I do on occasions is to give a rub down with a cloth.

It is now as shiny as if it had been chrome plated, admittedly having a Rohloff hub helps but I have had no problems with it and approaching four and half thousand miles.

I remember some salesmen showing me a Timkin bearing test for some oil additive & how good it was fifty years ago, OK in engines. Keep it away from chains.

If you must lube, use a wax type.

Over the years I have tried all sorts of lubrication. I found oils are very good at collecting and holding dirt, clogging the wheels of the derailier hanger and having a mucky chain. After a while the chain becomes stiff and far from flexible.

I made a deliberate choice of not lubricating the chain of my Delite. It is still as flexable as when it was new, the chain tensioner is clean, all I do on occasions is to give a rub down with a cloth.

It is now as shiny as if it had been chrome plated, admittedly having a Rohloff hub helps but I have had no problems with it and approaching four and half thousand miles.

I remember some salesmen showing me a Timkin bearing test for some oil additive & how good it was fifty years ago, OK in engines. Keep it away from chains.

If you must lube, use a wax type.

Have you tried something like the purple extreme? Maybe bad quality oil collect dust but from review it seems that this one keep dust and dirt away

I have a wax lube I use on the Birdy with it having a combined hub & derailier, can't remember the name of it. It goes on quite fluid but soon solidifies, the instructions say then to rub it off (the surplus), any dirt collected is supposed to fall away. Seems to work but then it doesn't get the use the Delite does.

If you could do the impossible and get it to stay on the chain, graphite powder would be the best thing to use.

Edited November 9, 201411 yr by EddiePJ

The KMC X8.99 gets good reviews.

The second review down mentions a BBS type motor being used.

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kmc-X8-99-7-8-Speed-Chain/dp/B004T98384/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415561797&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+x8.99

My experience is that re lubing regularly will extend drive train live dramatically, My first trike had 15,000 km on it when sold still using the original chain and sprockets and all still working like new.

I swapped the chain on my Esprit due to needing to extend it and not have a matching chain to steal links from.

Anyway I left the factory lube on it for 4 rides all including some dusty gravel tracks, checked it to day and it was sticky, covered in black gunk and felt gritty so out came the Prolink gold, wipe chain, spray with lube, wipe dry, feels like new now.

Left as it was I think months instead of years would have been the result to its life span.

Thats the chain I am using on mine and is better quality than the original chain on my Apollo Evade and also better than the "Tour de France" chain bought off ebay.

At less than £4 a time I am happy to replace my chain every 3 months and at the end of the day this will also prevent excess wear to the sprockets which,after all, are a lot more expensive.

 

I wanted to have a try.

 

I installed and added a bit of purple extreme.

 

But on high load (when bike starts) the chain slips on the rear freewheel........ it didn't on my previous chain....

 

 

3 possibilities:

1. The chain is not strong enough to deal with 750W and slip

2. Adding purple extreme create slippery

3. The freewheel is worned out and need to be replaced. But it was working fine with previous chain

 

What should I do?

Check the freewheel for wear, if it has wear the old chain was probably worn the same amount so still worked ok, new chain nolonger meshes correctly.

I have not had the issue personally, but it seems fairly common and there has been a couple of similar threads recently here.

1 and 2 are very unlikely.

I tried to remove the rear freewheel turning anti clockwise with wrench...

 

It didn't move. Then tried again with hammer and wrench and still in place. Any idea how to sort that out?

Thx

anyone know good and cheap freewheel to use with this clark chain?

Does it also protect against rain? And does the chain needs to be cleaned before lubricating? If so, anything you'd recommend?

I normally clean my chain before lube with a chain scrubber like this one.

 

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/park-tool-chain-scrubber-cm5-2/rp-prod8207

filled with

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/weldtite-citrus-degreaser-chain-cleaner/rp-prod5952

 

I also had the problem of a new chain slipping on worn cassette and have ended up keeping the worn chain and cogs on since they all still work together for now.