Battery for Devron 28120 E Bike

Murph

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Hi,
I am finding it very difficult to locate one of these, any tips?
- Mike
 

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Show us a pic .
 

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The battery case is one of a generic type for a rear carrier so chances are one will find a very similar one on ebay or look at yose bikes , Devron is just a a brand name for the bike and not the battery.
 

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I'm pretty sure Devron are a Romanian company making bikes in Romania (i.e. not Italian), although IIRC Devron are part of a larger group who may be Italian. Devron as a brand are really common in many parts of Europe.

From what I've seen Devron use Phylion batteries, and that looks to me like a Phylion SF-03 - used by many bike manufacturers, and often copied by PSPower and Yose if you want a cheaper version.

The OP needs to check the labelling: Does it say Joycube on it, and if it does, does it have a "With Smart BMS" roundel on it or not?
 

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The sf 03 is listed for other bikes in the their range so could be the same battery.
 

Murph

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Hi all, many thanks for your replies. I don't have the battery so can't read the label. Similarly, that's why re-celling it is a non starter.

> If unsure go the whole hog and buy a new battery and a rack, transplanting/placing
> the controller in the front section.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that's probably what I'll have to do. Devron.it are not even replying to my emails now.

- Mike
 

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Why don't you have the battery? Do you have the charger? If so, post a picture of the charger plug.

Changing to an alternative battery/rack most probably won't work if the bike is wired to use comms from a battery fitted with a smart BMS.
 

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Alot of generic BMS are named as smart BMS becuase they have balance features and lvc features etc,etc, the use of the word 'smart' can be and is misleading at times.

A true smart BMS allows the user to alter parameters via uart or BT.
 

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If it's Phylion (we don't know), all styles are available with Smart BMS or not. On some bikes that matters; on others those comms aren't used and the smart provision is there only for a dealer to test battery cycles/wear.

We've had users here replacing Phylion batteries without the smart feature only to find the bike won't work at all. Conversely, some of the original Carrera bikes with Phylion batteries were supplied with smart BMS's, when a non-smart BMS version worked anyway.

As a rule, if it says smart on a Phylion, it's best to buy a replacement with it. They're only a couple of quid more.

As Phylion charger plugs/ports are proprietary, a pic of the OP's charger plug would confirm if it is - or is not - a Phylion.
 

Murph

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> Why don't you have the battery? Do you have the charger?

I purchased the bike without a battery or charger, thinking that it would be a straight forward task to purchase these two items from the manufacturer / dealer.
How wrong I was.
 

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I purchased the bike without a battery or charger
We've found here on the forum that an e-bike without a battery and/or a charger often means it's stolen. That may be why Devron won't talk to you.
 

Murph

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> We've found here on the forum that an e-bike without a battery and/or a charger
> often means it's stolen. That may be why Devron won't talk to you.

It was abandoned on land belonging to the seller. He reported it to the police and announced it on-line on various forums, local newsagent's windows, faceache
pages etc. but had no response at all.

After many months of the bike taking up room in his garage he got permission from the police to sell it.

I reckon that isn't why Devron won't talk to me, in fact they have replied to my initial emails and promised to help if they could, but nothing heard since then. I hear from the various dealers that stock Devron electric bikes, both here in the UK and in Ireland, that they too cannot source Devron spares and most of them have asked me to let them know if I get any joy. Apparently, there is no UK agent for the brand anymore.

So, I may have bought a bit of a lemon, but with Devron bikes on sale in all these various dealers it looked like an established brand, which it was, but, it turns out, a crap one, with zero after sales service.

I am planning to take the rear rack/battery mounting apart soon. I shall take some images of it and post them here.
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- Mike
 
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That sounds plausible. Someone stole it, realised it was electric and worthless without the battery and abandoned it.

In that case, as Nealh points out, later versions of similar Devron bikes still use the SF-03 battery, which has been around for donkeys years. My guess - and it is only a guess - is yours does too.

Take a pic of the dock/cradle where the battery pushes into; Phylion use 6 blade prongs, uniquely spaced. If it is Phylion, it's likely to be one of two styles, of which the SF-03 is the more common and more easily available. That Devron still use it makes it more likely, but not guaranteed.

EDIT: Okay, I found it. This image shows the case profile for the two most common Phylion battery rear-rack styles. The left is SF-03, the right is Wall-E. If it looks like yours is either, there's a good/helpful Czech Devron supplier who sells both these original batteries and the matching charger (I've bought SF-03 chargers cheaply from them before). There're also Chinese suppliers with depots in Europe who sell versions of these - PSPower and Yose.

Posting a pic of your battery cradle contacts will confirm if it's either of these.

Joycube SF-03 vs Wall-E.jpg
 
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Just to expand on this, here's the usual contact arrangement for Phylion batteries: Flecc's post #4 suggests your bike does use the smart BMS. If you find the centre 4 pins aren't connected, you could probably use a generic battery/rack as Nealh suggests in post #6.

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For sure if only the two outer pins are used then any generic battery will be ok.
 

Murph

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Please find attachedimage of rear carrier on Devron ebike.jpg an image of the battery cradle contacts.
- Mike
 

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Hmm. Okay. I doubt that's Phylion then (or not one I recognise/one of their common ones).

EDIT: Ignore that.

The original SF-03 battery (uses the round notched 5-pin charger):

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The new SF-03 battery (uses the newer D-plug charger):

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You think this may be it? It looks it to me. Gird your loins... It's 538 euros! Charger 38 euros.

If you weren't already wishing you'd passed on buying this bike, I'll bet you are now!
 
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