Applying Stickers to Hub Motor

[Waspy]

So now the police have got this new urge to seize e-bikes. I want to make my bike as non-seizable as possible.

I keep my bike roadworthy with good tyres, brakes etc.

I have no throttle.

I have a 250w MXUS XF08C motor.

I carry the invoice, but unfortunately while it says it is 36v it does not state the wattage.

Also there are no markings on the motor stating it is 250w. It does say 36v and 26" but no mention of watts.

I have purchased some stickers from Amazon, but one review says:
"Not sticky enough to stay on bike, edges lifted within minutes"

So my question is what is the best method to apply the sticker to stop it falling off? Spray some clear coat over it perhaps, or use helicopter tape?

By the way, I ordered a sheet of ten stickers, so if anyone wants one for free just let me know.

There is a spelling mistake on the stickers but that will either go un-noticed or I can fob them off with bad Chinese translation.

 

[thelarkbox]

perhaps clean the motor with a solvent and seal in the sticker with a few rounds of clear scotch tape ala laptop windows code erasure protection. or apply a seam of superglue along the sticker edge or, smear with a wipe of epoxy ?? or a combination...

 

[saneagle]

I just asked Google AI about how to make a DIY label and it ripped off my instruction from 14 years ago:

Get some 2" wide sicky backed aluminium tape.
Print your design on a normal piece of A4 paper
Pritt Stick the aluminium tape over the print
Print again.
Cover the aluminium print in 2" wide selotape.
Cut out label, peal off backing and stick to cleaned motor.

Alternatively, use a photo-copier
Same as above, but put the printed copy with aluminium tape on it back at the top of the paper magazine or use the single sheet feeder, noting the correct orientation.

You can also get aluminium coloured labels of different sizes on sheets to print on from Ebay/Amazon. You still need to cover them in selotape or clear sticky-backed plastic to protect the print.

 

[Sparksandbangs]

I had some non backed aluminium tape and stuck it on an overlabel with backing. Unfortunately the laser printer didn't make a mark on it. It did however dump a load of ink on the rollers that appeared on every other print for the next 25 sheets.

Strangely it did manage to print on the sellotape holding the label in place. Maybe I should have stuck another overlabel on top of it and printed on that.

My non scientific conclusion from this is that some aluminium tape might be a bit too polished to print on.

 

[Sparksandbangs]

It came from Screwfix by the way. I had some left over from another job. So maybe look elsewhere.

 

[thelarkbox]

the spray on 'fixers' used by arts n crafts folk to protect works or the poor mans equivalent (hairspray) might prep the tape surface for printing??

if patient paint on a weak pva solution and allow that to dry first?

 

[Sparksandbangs]

My experiments were sadly curtailed as it wasn't my printer. I was forced to feign horror that someone would abuse equipment like that and ruin other people's prints.

 

[Sturmey]

......... So my question is what is the best method to apply the sticker to stop it falling off? Spray some clear coat over it perhaps, or use helicopter tape?......

I just wiped the section of the motor down with a dry rag and stuck them on. I found it hard to get them square when fitting thru the spokes. No problems so far. (excuse the photo quality)

 

[saneagle]

I had some non backed aluminium tape and stuck it on an overlabel with backing. Unfortunately the laser printer didn't make a mark on it. It did however dump a load of ink on the rollers that appeared on every other print for the next 25 sheets.

Strangely it did manage to print on the sellotape holding the label in place. Maybe I should have stuck another overlabel on top of it and printed on that.

My non scientific conclusion from this is that some aluminium tape might be a bit too polished to print on.

I had a basic HP laser printer. It worked perfectly to print the labels on the aluminium tape, then I got a cheap replacement ink cartridge because the OEM ones are expensive. The cheap one was fine on paper, but wouldn't print on the aluminium.

 

[Waspy]

I just wiped the section of the motor down with a dry rag and stuck them on. I found it hard to get them square when fitting thru the spokes. No problems so far. (excuse the photo quality)
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LOL, as simple as that? I should try that first I guess, as I have ten to play with.

If that fails, I can try some of the suggestions here.

 

[guerney]

The print on these smeared easily when rubbed:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285385143084?var=587287817778

So I stuck a bit of this thick clear self-adhesive vinyl sheet over the top, to protect it from oil.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222555418707?var=521398478275

 

[Waspy]

The print on these smeared easily when rubbed:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285385143084?var=587287817778

So I stuck a bit of this thick clear self-adhesive vinyl sheet over the top, to protect it from oil.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222555418707?var=521398478275

Your second link is not working but I guess you mean that stuff they call 'Helicopter Tape'

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114859977683?_skw=3m+helicopter+tape+bike+protection&itmmeta=01JSPB1RCRSA40ZD16Q71ZG7WX&hash=item1abe302bd3:g:2I4AAOSws7dg0HgI&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA4FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1eHZ3FHHntDOYYQjCK5sMjSV5mw9nWqJksLtdtZIyEu2md6IUISui16irTk+yehSArx8SvTYELTUBo+W3Wn76te41qf93EgEbok/rXhAAVRJA1Z9iACyrvMy7K7XqkoZ49oAA91Y7MB7TGvi1fQTsddZPkJ2UztV9WQwq00YdBJ+xVnvRnFwClTGB+GL5qSj/s0/DLBQAFUqqRULSp7qClBq2uwdvfsXaIjDCttkldNJhlX/CVD2zyFI+2FVv7qmFRfPxE15xJv44YJ3JeCeLvM|tkp:BlBMUMaGh8vNZQ

 

[guerney]

Your second link is not working but I guess you mean that stuff they call 'Helicopter Tape'

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114859977683?_skw=3m+helicopter+tape+bike+protection&itmmeta=01JSPB1RCRSA40ZD16Q71ZG7WX&hash=item1abe302bd3:g:2I4AAOSws7dg0HgI&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA4FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1eHZ3FHHntDOYYQjCK5sMjSV5mw9nWqJksLtdtZIyEu2md6IUISui16irTk+yehSArx8SvTYELTUBo+W3Wn76te41qf93EgEbok/rXhAAVRJA1Z9iACyrvMy7K7XqkoZ49oAA91Y7MB7TGvi1fQTsddZPkJ2UztV9WQwq00YdBJ+xVnvRnFwClTGB+GL5qSj/s0/DLBQAFUqqRULSp7qClBq2uwdvfsXaIjDCttkldNJhlX/CVD2zyFI+2FVv7qmFRfPxE15xJv44YJ3JeCeLvM|tkp:BlBMUMaGh8vNZQ

Sorry about the duff link, was from my purchase history - this is the same stuff I think:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334997109433

When stickers were discussed last year or sometime previously, someone suggested helicopter tape, the above is cheaper. Most of the A4 sheet I bought is left over. Prices have increased, I only paid £1.52.

 

[Benjahmin]

I had a basic HP laser printer. It worked perfectly to print the labels on the aluminium tape, then I got a cheap replacement ink cartridge because the OEM ones are expensive. The cheap one was fine on paper, but wouldn't print on the aluminium.

I also used an HP laser printer. No problems.
My difficulty was not being able to replicate the CE and UK CA fonts. Anyone got a pointer?

 

[guerney]

You can copy the graphic to clipboard (CTRL+Print Screen buttons on Windows), after zooming into the web page or PDF, then paste (CTRL+V) as a layer into an image editing program. I still use Paint Shop Pro 6 for stuff liker that, supports layers (there are tutorials on Youtube), which was a free "Shareware" Photoshop wannabe. The three .RAR files contain the installation files. Download all three and double click to extract with Winrar or 7Zip. Works on Windows 7. Cick past the Paint Shop Pro 6 nag screen, which was a feature of shareware - fully functional, but with nagging. Works similar to Photoshop, even supports layered Photoshop files and plugins of old.

https://archive.org/details/20210822_20210822_1003

Winrar(free shareware with nag screen at startup):

https://www.win-rar.com

7Zip(free Open Source):

https://www.7-zip.org/

Or you could copy/paste into something like MSPaint or Gimp(free), crop, resize, then copy/paste into a Word/Wordpad/LibreOffice(free) document and resize, to print? Oodles of free Open Source Desktop publishing software out there, but they will never outnumber noodles.

 

[Benjahmin]

WOW, thanks Guerney, that's comprehensive. Unfortunately you lost me after clipboard

 

[guerney]

Open MSPaint:

Get a view of the UKCA graphic onto your screen. While holding down the CTRL button, press the Print Screen button - this will copy whatever's on your screen to the clipboard. Go to MSPaint, hit the Paste button. Select an area around the UKCA symbol, and hit the Crop button, then save the file somewhere or copy to clipboard. Open LibreOffice writer, Wordpad, Word or whatever you're using to create the rest of the label, then import your UKCA graphic file and resize as needed, or paste it in and resize.

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[guerney]

Here's the UKCA symbol, ready to save (right click>Save as), import and resize:

 

[Sparksandbangs]

Here's the UKCA symbol, ready to save (right click>Save as), import and resize:

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Spelling error. It's safety 'standart'.
Brake is spelt 'brack' should you need to use that.

 

[Waspy]

I made this with "Standard" spelt correctly.

It is 3.0cm x 3.0cm

The only way I could get it to print at the right size (as above) was to insert it into a Word document.

Also, I downloaded a free PDF editor and added "250w" into the motor specs on the invoice. It looks good, I'll keep it in a plastic wallet in my backpack. Nothing really too illicit, because the motor is actually 250w.