Anyone converted a Carrera Vengeance 2020?

wonderer99

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May 15, 2020
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Hi all

I am looking at buying a donor bike to convert. I want to use a 750-1000w rear hub and am looking at the Halfords Carrera Vengeance 2020 black model. Please can anyone advise as to its suitability for conversion? There is a couple of videos on Youtube of a guy who converted but also mention of shallow dropouts. Saftey is paramount. It will be a casual use thing so not wanting to spend too much on a bike.

Finding a cheapish donor bike is proving to be the hardest part. This seems to be a popular bike so has anyone had any success with it? I know they have the Carrera Vengeance E Spec so is that just the same bike essentially with the e bits slapped on it?

Many thanks.
 
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AndyBike

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Try gumtree.
Its pretty much a basic frame type bike, so at a pinch anything similar would do. Just as long as it fits you.
Vengeance E Spec so is that just the same bike essentially with the e bits slapped on it?
Yeah,slightly different frame and slightly different spec, but at the same level of cheapness as to the non electric. Lets them add a pretty penny to the profit margins.
 

wonderer99

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May 15, 2020
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Try gumtree.
Its pretty much a basic frame type bike, so at a pinch anything similar would do. Just as long as it fits you.

Yeah,slightly different frame and slightly different spec, but at the same level of cheapness as to the non electric. Lets them add a pretty penny to the profit margins.
Well this is what I have read but it seems there actually many variables which make a frame suitable. The whole "fits any bike" or "any frame will do" seems to be a big fat whopper. The main issue I have is finding something with deep enough dropouts. Dropout depth info seems to be hard to come by easily.
 

Nealh

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All cheap bikes and many decent ones use 9mm drop outs, I doubt you will find any near deep enough. DD hubs have 14mm depth axles so on will often need to file the drop out at least 2.5mm deeper to fit the axle correctly as well as adding a pair of torque arms for safety. If one uses a steel frame you may get away with no torque arms.
Take note of the current the controller supplies as any battery will need to supply more then the controller max current stated continuously and not peak, ideally 20/25% more headroom would be a good start.