Agattu batteries

[davidw]

In his review Flecc says that the battery should be fully discharged 2/ 3 times initially and then kept topped up thereafter. Given my age, current physical condition, and the fact that there are no flat roads anywhere near my home it will obviously be impossible for me to cycle far enough to discharge the battery on one ride. That being the case can I assume that totting up the requisite miles over several rides will meet the requirement just as well?

 

[flecc]

Yes definitely, as many short trips as you wish to empty the battery is fine. Once you've done that a couple of times to condition the cells and reach optimum capacity, then it's the opposite of course, change at every opportunity. That gives both the best life and the best average performance, this combination being the attraction of Li-ion batteries.
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[davidw]

Thanks Flecc. As always a prompt brief but comprehensive, and re assuring, reply
David

 

[Erik]

Agattu battery from Japan

In wait of my Agattu, I've done some furious googling for a battery from Japan, and I have finally found it: NKY225B02

The price is 30.700 Yen

I can read the japanese web pages using AltaVista - Babel Fish Translation

 

[keithhazel]

The price is 30.700 Yen

I can read the japanese web pages using AltaVista - Babel Fish Translation[/QUOTE]

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if i was you i would splash out and buy a second as a spare as 30.700 yen is £0.150458....seems quite good value to me...

or even buy a couple of hundred and then just throw them away as chargeing will cost more then that

 

[flecc]

The decimal point will be a comma here Keith, so it's £150.28

Add P & P, import duty from Japan, VAT, and you probably wouldn't gain much and could have warranty problems. Here you get a two year warranty.
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[keithhazel]

The decimal point will be a comma here Keith, so it's £150.28

Add P & P, import duty from Japan, VAT, and you probably wouldn't gain much and could have warranty problems. Here you get a two year warranty.
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yes tony i figured,but reckoned that if i didnt get in first some shark would...lol...what you say about the 2 year warranty is worth so much too, peace of mind..WOW what id give for that....id happily have paid £600 for my battery with that period of time peace of mind

 

[Erik]

Boy, you sure are fast in here.

In Denmark we use . for thousand seperator and , for decimals.

Look at this slideshow of an original Panasonic:

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[keithhazel]

on one hand it looks 50 years old with the horrid basket and plastic side's at the rear then it looks modern with the battery and buttons,

 

[Erik]

Then have a look of the beauty I added with built-in childs seat.

BTW doesn't it look like Kalkhoff uses the same plastic covers as Panasonic?

 

[flecc]

On the Japanese domestic market this is very ordinary. They have some of the weirdest contraptions out there.
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[Erik]

It seems I posted the 8Ah battery

the 10Ah is called NKY239B02 and costs 35,295 yen tax included, or £ 172.

The charger costs about £50 for a version for the half-size batteries, but they have 100 volt mains in Japan.

Could someone with an Agattu nearby confirm or correct the battery type?

Here's a discussion about battery upgrade:

Translated version of http://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/64605010321/SortID=7367451/

 

[flecc]

In that case with P & P, import duty from Japan to the EU, and 17.5% VAT, it's likely to end up at the very least £255, and the potential of no warranty support.

So for the UK I'd rather pay the £305 here and have the assurance of the 2 year warranty.

Sorry Erik, I don't have an Agattu to look at, but hopefully an owner will post his battery code for you.
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[Erik]

I'm also sure it's not worth the trouble at this stage of the Agattu model life.

If it turns out that you can rely on the battery's own quality and not the warranty, then those who have contacts in Japan could buy directly from there.

 

[Erik]

TNT ECONOMY EXPRESS 13090.00 JPY

# all prices are exclusive of Value Added Tax (VAT) and any customs duties

So we are looking at £280 excluding import duties.

 

[flecc]

Thanks Erik. I think the duty rate is 8% on the total applied before VAT, so that brings it to about £316. That's £11 higher than our UK price, so definitely not an option.
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[StrangeFish]

Boy, you sure are fast in here.

In Denmark we use . for thousand seperator and , for decimals.

Look at this slideshow of an original Panasonic:

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Hi Erik ..What a beauty! I would love to own one like that. How old would you say that bike is? With that battery, It looks recent doesn't it?

Regards,
StrangeFish

 

[Erik]

It's the newest generation.

There is a guy on a german motorcycle forum who claims that he can handle the paperwork involved in import from Japan.

In our case, batteries or complete e-bikes would be much easier compared to a motorbike, since there are no emissions tests, or in fact any kind of registration involved.

 

[Erik]

Since I now have an Agattu I can see that the charger is for 100-240V mains, and therefore the same they sell in Japan, just with different mains plug.

 

[Erik]

The Vivi EX with 10Ah batery costs £576 including delivery on main Japan islands. It comes with 24" or 26" wheels, 3-speed gearhub and lights working off the battery.


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