2nd attempt at obtaining advice

patrick from the peak

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hi,
a few weeks ago, when first registering, I posted under 'Introduce yourself', explained I was a keen cyclist and one of the 'founding members' of the Electric Bicycle Network set up in the Peak District. I also asked for advise in the same posting but only got one response - from the owner of Juicy bikes in Buxton, suggesting a bike that I dont quite think fits my bill, although thanks, Bob, for your advises.
anyhow under this section of the forum, which I believe is more appropriate I am repeating my question for advice - which went as follows:
I an enthusiast road rider, I would ordinarily be looking for a similar road bike in electric form (Cannondale might have fitted the bill), but as it would also be for my wife when travelling a couple of weeks a year on relatively flat German bike routes (so that I could then travel at roughly the same speed as her on one of my non-electric bikes), I guess it would have to look for a trekking style bike (actually not really sure what a trekking style is, as my mentality is still fixed in the 1970s, when you simply had either race bikes or touring bikes!)
Anyhow I am not worried about power – my legs can provide that – but certainly interested in
a) Distance
b) smooth change from electric to manual at circa 15mph. and no drag (except perhaps with regenerative braking (is that the word?)
c) reliability all round as I am rubbish at cycle maintenance.
d) Bike to be happy on tracks, but would not be interested in taking it on mountain bike routes.
It seems the 2011 Panasonic powered bikes gives an alleged 87miles on medium power, so as distance is my number one priority, is that really the only choice? The CTC magazine review suggests the best cadence for this is low, and goes on to suggest that it is therefore not really suited for more experienced riders, but am I right in thinking from other contributions on this forum, this is different with the 2011 battery?
I certainly want to be able to go up one in five hills (even if a lot of assistance is required, that does not worry me at all, just the design of the Dutch style Giant -this refers in my earlier contribution to the bikes supplied by the Electric Bike Network that I am leasing for renting out to my guests - almost prohibits that)
I look forward to contributions from other members of this community
Patrick
 

Tim

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Nov 1, 2006
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The Pro Connect Disc is the bike that best fits your requirements - there are some recent owner reviews here. Some owners have a smaller sprocket fitted to the rear hub which gives an overall higher gearing, especially the more experienced cyclists.
 

NRG

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Oct 6, 2009
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Forget regen If you are considering it, of little value on a push bike and especially on the flat. To get range go with a lower power consumption bike, the Panasonic's are among the lowest....however, as you will be riding on the flat a hub powered bike would also work well something like the Cytronex bikes..

Another consideration is a conversion kit, you can then choose a better spec donor bike and add a kit like an eZee or Wisper Daahub....



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barrycoll

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Sep 14, 2009
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Hi Patrick

you seem to be of a similar vintage, plus a similar outlook to my self on the ebike situation....

I too like to 'keep up with' my wife when she is powered and I am not........but I am not sure as to whether this new bike is for you in the first instance, and your lady as a bi-product (as it were), or the other way around...you suggest that honking along un powered is your 'thing', but then add that a big mileage capability is a necessity (for you, or for your wife?)....

if used on flat roads, a lot of the work is still going to be done by the rider, as you dont sound like a moped type of cyclist, so distance is relative to the amount of time you need/want to be powered up....

as suggested in another post recently, we used my wifes powered hybrid and my unpowered while cycling in Spain last month.........as is the nature of the female psyche, for long periods she wouldn't use the power, and only a long climb got her to sit back and enjoy the ride..while I was out of the saddle attempting to keep up
for this purpose, the conversion by the chap you mentioned from Buxton, Bob Wales from Juicy Bikes, has been very good for us indeed, giving the bike lots of uphill torque, but seemingly no flat road/ downhill drag at all...

I actually rode that bike today into central London today, with my wife on her Tongxin powerd Brompton, and there seemd no difference on a downhill run, and the Tongxin is regarded as the top choice for zero drag

if you bike-brain is still in the 70's, you probably dont want a bike with a long wheelbase, and the battery behind the seat tube, but something that looks like a normal machine, so it seems like the best bet a getting a kit fitted to a stock hybrid type mountain bike......something with front suspension for rough tracks, and larger section tyres on 26" rims, and a more upright riding style rather than drop bars and a long reach stem...

I wish you all the best with the pursuit, as there are an awful of choices available out there

cheers Barry C.