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Monoblock

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Ok, first post here but likely not my last.

After de-mothballing an antique of a GT (XCR3000) I've found a few things - aside from getting it back on the road (tyres, tubes, bit of freeing up, lubrication and grease) most of the gear parts are well on their way, it's now very old tech (15 years old) and heavy for a full suspension bike with no E-Drive but after 30 miles of trail plus canal tow path with some friends my biggest issue with it and cycling is my knackered knee (patella tracking), it went after about 25 miles and the ride was painful, up hills I had to walk it up at the end whilst using it as a crutch and a week and a half on its still painful so traditional cycling is going to be tough and likely stupid on my part.

But I'm not one to give up, I've got the bug back that saw me put a hell of a lot of miles on my old GT (I do love that bike and will be gutted to see it go after all this time) and I've got some vouchers through work I can use on Amazon and a supplier that can sell through there so I'm now looking at an e-bike l. I will use it motor off and very low as I want to get back to my old fitness levels but when the knee goes I get some support (I'm only 34, not too unfit and looking to be able to bike rather than give in), I.e. I can take the pressure off on a steep hill.

My initial though was a Haibike Fullseven pro, it's available for £3600, includes the Bosch Nylon system that I love and has full lock out on the suspension which is a dream after many years yoyo'ing on a GT when I try to accelerate on flat straits, I use it on road as well as off.

The issue is I can only get a 50cm, I'm 5'7" and that's too big.

So I have 2 bikes offered that seem to make sense

1) Scott E-Genius 710, has the suspension lock out, can upgrade to nylon, would have preferred slightly higher end gear equipment but it's the top of the line - suspension controlled from the gender bars, I have a mate with a Scott who is raving about it - he's a lazy sod so he loves the leg power all getting to the rear wheel. Also has the big 3.0 tyres which should be great for grip in the woods and up mud hills, appreciate drag on the road though.

2) 2015 Haibike full mountain pro, ticks every box in regards to weight, drive system, components (lovely wheels and gear set up) - tyres arn't that wide for a modern MTB which seems strange and it does not have lock out, just trail mode (anyone got any experience of this)

So, an ex halfords cycle mechanic of 15 years ago who's knowledge is years out of date has some treat money and keeps a bike for the long term would love your input, where would you go with about £4500.

Riding is a mix, some local road, to and from town (7/8 miles return) canel tow paths, say 30/40 mile stints, off road through local woods in the chilterns and alongside the M40 so decent gradients, tree roots, drops etc and every now and again dedicated MTB courses in the local area, plus the odd new Forrest ride.
 

soundwave

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May 23, 2015
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forget nyon to big to many problems and to expensive if you crash and brake it.

bar that you need to have a go on 1 first then take it from there you will not get 40 miles out of it in turbo mode so will have to use lower settings if wanting to go 30-40 miles or better to have 2 batts.
 

DAJ

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May 8, 2015
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You are on the right track. I too have a damaged knee, I am OK at "spinning" but cannot withstand the strain of extended grinding climbs. E-bikes are hill killers, just get the right gear and right level of assistance and spin your way to the top with ease.

Good luck on your search, with your budget you will easily get what you need.

I also lusted after nyon but ultimately didn't buy it, more due to delivery issues with nyon equipped bikes though.
 

greyfox69

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Good Hunting, I have same dodgy knee issues, although I ride different terrain, mainly country roads, disused railway lines etc and commuting, I went for the Scott esub sports, tried lots of other makes and models but this one stood out for me. whatever you decide ride at least four or five different models if time allows , for me that was all part of the fun.
 
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Benjahmin

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If you've got a bike that you love and you've got the skills, why not do a conversion? You could do a top class job for way less that £4500. That way, if you break anything you're already clue'd in to fixing it.
I would think that £1000 would get you a stonking kit with a huge battery.
 

EddiePJ

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How about a KTM Macina Lycan or other Macina FS bike. http://www.ktm-bikes.at/bikes/e-bike.html

They come in a wide selection of frame sizes, have a good spec, and having owned one for the last couple of years, I can vouch for the fact that they handle off road terrain superbly.

The only mod that I have made is to change the final drive gearing with to an 11-42 cassette, and this is now standard. You also have the benefit of the CX motor, and 500wh battery, where as mine has the Performance Line motor and 400wh battery.

I'm also not keen on Nyon for off road use and removed mine, but everyone's requirements are different.

Consumable parts such suspension bush kits are also seemingly cheaper than Haibike.

Tyre sizing is also more than ample for your predicted use of the bike.
 
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Monoblock

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Look nice bikes, god my brand knowledge is out of date!
My main issue is suppliers, I need to buy though Amazon as 80% of my purchase is going to be in Amazon vouchers so I'm having to find the people who supply though there, what they can offer as a company and therefore list online for me - company bonus is Amazon vouchers, love2shop vouchers or John Lewis ones so the only one that gets me access to bikes is Amazon.
500w batt is indeed intreguing as it will give further range and I imagine as all batteries do it will perform less as it gets older so the larger capacity will retain a bigger range as it ages compared to a 400w.

I'll have a better look when I'm home, thanks for the post
 

Monoblock

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Apr 5, 2016
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What is your experience of 26" (what I'm used to) vs 27.5" wheels,
Founds identical deals on 2 bikes, with the latter being better value based on better suspension and higher orig price.

Haibike Xduro Enduro pro 2105
Haibike xduro all mountain pro 2015

Both halve CTD instead of the 2016 full lock out - need to try then but hoping that may be enough to make it better that my old GT when your out the seat (any experience here)

1kg in it with the Nduro being heavier, longer suspension travel that still runs CTD so can have some additional jump fun, gearing and brakes are identical, stronger wheels on the Nduro, but it runs 26" rims

I'm 5'6" so not looking at 29's
 
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EddiePJ

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Funny that you should say that Paul.

I haven't ridden a 26" wheeled bike for a couple of years, but very much doubt that I could tell the difference either, and I certainly can't when jumping from a 27.5 onto a 29

I suspect that at our levels of riding, it just comes down to pub bull.