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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    FYI my TSDZ2B fouled the chainstay but it came with some shims which were enough to get it positioned correctly. I can't use my low gears but it's fine for all the gears you'd want to use. MTB low gears are a bit pointless on an eeb
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    Have you ever talked to a company representative before? They give you half the story, and it's on you to figure out the other half. What we know of the product is good. Why don't you buy one and see for yourself instead of all this conjecture? This thread would be a fraction of the size...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    I agree with that, there's no proof it's any better. I'll be able to give more insights when my motor arrives What do you mean what am I hiding? I openly am running a tsdz2b with OSF and cycle around assisted above 15.5mph. Shock horror! You clearly are far more interested in the the specifics...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    Okay, then get a sticker that says that if you're worried about it. It's all nonsense anyway! I rented a haibike 250w yamaha pw-x3 and that thing had way more power than the tsdz2 500w motor I received stock. The manufacturers measure the continuous output power differently. But the point is...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    The torque sensor is different between the tsdz2 and dm02 and supposedly improved The tsdz2b uses a magnet and hall sensor that deflect as the bottom bracket is stressed: The DM-02 has a strain gauge: With strain gauges there's a conductive pad that's glued to something that undergoes...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    Sorry but I don't know what you're getting at here. You're doing this the wrong way around - make points with words, and back them up with links. Just giving links is lazy, the links might die, people might not click them, and even if they do whatever you're trying to get across will probably...
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    I fail to see the relevance. Are you talking about this? > I once was being pursued for "negligence" by what thankfully proved an unsound claim; Who knows if that's even related to ebikes
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    Has anyone heard of or tried Toseven mid drive?

    I emailed tongsheng about the TSDZ2B turbo and heard nothing back, so as far as I'm concerned they don't exist. Also there's no reviews for that motor, no videos or pictures Whereas for the to7 motors there are people paid to connect to customers in forums, and there are units in the wild. I...