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Well, that is discouraging to hear since that is exactly the combo I want/am going to order. I was not aware of any Nuvinci/Gates drive issues. Does anyone know whether they have they improved?

I may be mistaken, but I do not believe RM - even now - offers a Rohloff/Gates combo. The Gates option is only for a Nuvinci hub. I would like to be wrong on this, so if I am, please let me know!

Thank you for the offer David, however, I live in the US. I believe R-M is just beginning to export to dealers over here. Interesting about the battery option as I had been told the exact opposite.

Thank you both for the insights and link - don't know how I missed Croxden's series of reviews! My hope is to get the Delite Touring with the dual battery and Gates drive. The dual battery looks a little odd, but I believe it is a time of purchase decision - can not be added in afterward...

Are there any reviews of this bike to which someone can point me? I have "Googled" and not found anything in English. Also, I have searched this site and found a lot on mentions ("if budget is not an issue"), but nothing more. R-M is coming to the US, and the full suspension and feature set...

If I had any skills at all, I would be tempted to build my own! My confidence far exceeds my skills, however, which usually ends up costing me a lot of money in the end.

Thank you both. Expense is always a factor, but of more importance to me is getting it right. Many of the forum posts I reviewed over the last month or two - on several web sites - seem to discount any poster/post that is willing to pay for what they want. Thus, my reluctance to enter the fray...

@Fordulike - thanks for pointing out the wiring - hadn't noticed that before. My ideal e-assist bike would be a full suspension mid-drive (500W or more) with Rolloff hub and Gates drive that I could use for everything - touring, around town, hauling stuff (groceries, dog - not at the same...

Thank you @d8veh - future repair is, indeed, a consideration. (I believe Specialized and HP Velotechnik also use the SwissDrive system - but not sure if those are proprietary.) Assuming that I can find a repair person willing to actually diagnose and repair if needed, do you know of anyone using...

I am considering a Tout Terrain e-assist bike, and am having trouble finding any user experiences or reviews. Currently, they are equipped with a rear-hub 250W Go SwissDrive, but I am hoping in the future they may also offer a 500W option. I would be interested in hearing about any experiences...