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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Dont apologise. I thought they had less than 0.7%.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, I was head of Maths for 12 years,, know nowt about it.Lectured in it for 30. Then decided to put it to use.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Maths isn't your strong suit then OG?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Errr. By 1%...That means the decline has slowed. In the last 10 years its fallen 34%, and as I said previously you are not taking into account the billions received. Remove the help and they are still in decline.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And, your summation is completely hypothetical.(around our gdp/debt) . Italy's problems are real and current.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Rubbish again. Their debt to GDP has improved around 1% and still around 32% worse than 08 collapse. (In 08 it was 98% and way too high at that) They are in a financially terrible state and with an increasing number wanting to solve problem by having their own fiscal control. (ie a return to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is utter rubbish. And you know enough to know it. Some more from same stable perhaps. https://amp.uk.businessinsider.com/italy-debt-global-gdp-growth-2017-7 Interesting point for those who refuse to read my links. Statistically the recession in Greece is now worse than that of USA in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If EU cause a world wide financial collapse brought about by repeating same mistakes USA made in 08 the fallout will make Brexit argument look completely insignificant. So far the only actions taken in Euro zone have been to purchase the billions of toxic debt, ie putting losses onto those that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The strength of a currency is not related to its long term stability. Debt to reserves is highest in world for any major currency for euro. In effect this means far fewer folk would need to withdraw cash before banks could not pay back investors/savers.Anybody who actually thinks euro is in a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Can't remember if it was Woosh or Danidl... Total debt of a country is not really the issue, the benchmark is debt to GDP. UK is too high at 88% but not bad compared to France at 96%..(Germany 68%) However if we look at Italy specifically and Euro countries in general the figure is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://m.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2149668/will-italy-and-its-ailing-banks-trigger-next-global?amp=1 Must admit the previous links conclusions were rather pessimistic. (,ie collapse of Euro inevitable) However, the mathematics behind the listed problems can not be ignored. The...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think its the majority agree with you, and a growing majority at that.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.capitalandconflict.com/end-of-europe/page/1 ?????
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Errr. That's the Daily Mail Woosh. Must be made up.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think you, ve summed him up well. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-09/the-eu-doesn-t-want-to-be-more-democratic Even Bloomberg see there is an issue with democracy in EU.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And of course wiki is utterly unbias and reliable.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    http://www.civitas.org.uk/publications/the-brussels-broadcasting-corporation/is Good article about bias in BBC against leave... From Civitas. Click on Europe after opening link.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is point three kiwi. Perhaps we are reading different links. Point 1 was about perceptions ?? I, ll enlarge it if you wish. (lifted from Cavitas)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Loads better. If you take trouble to actually investigate subject you, ll find out democracy is almost an impossibility over entire state of EU. Do your homework OG. Research it properly before judging others. Read point 3 OG.