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Totally agree. If you are moving bulk items from a specific point to another, perfect. Coal to power stations.. Etc etc But once people are involved with different starting points and varying destinations the train is always a compromise. It usually involves 6 journeys. One to station, one to...

No, we started this debate by somebody insisting trains instigated and fostered business. Those days have gone, business follows the road network. Hence Meadow Hall and its proximity to M1. It was nothing to do with trains suitability to people, but since you have gone there. No in general they...

To bring both cusomers from South street in Rotherham. Nobody goes to MH on the train OG. They, d have to be bonkers. Bet you have. Why would you walk outside, dragging bags of shopping, get rained on (its always raining in Attercliffe) wait for a train with drunks, after buying a ticket, drag...

I, m not sure it does. Surely it depends on distance. If destination isnt that far the trip to and from station become important. If its miles away not so. Cant think of an instance where train could beat road for either price or convenience?? On very long journeys plane wipes floor with both...

I know I, ve used it. Its normally empty. I, d guess it represents under 1% of business conducted at MH. How many people want to carry their shopping to a train station (actually about half a mile from MH centre and it is not integrated into MH, its an uncovered open walk with main road to...

If you want to bring business.... You build a road.... And provide parking. Look where they put Meadow Hall or any other massive mall. Next to a motorway... Not a railway station. Its 2019....not 1850... Ok, I, ll accept we need a rail network but we need an efficient road system loads more.

http://theconversation.com/fact-check-do-new-eu-rules-make-it-impossible-to-renationalise-railways-61180 Suggest you read this flecc. Had it not been for Merkel nationalisation would have been all but impossible. Might still be,depends how it pans out. Ceetainly not outlawed, agreed, but...

Agreed, it needs massive investment, like our roads do, and our schools, and our police, and our hospitals... All gone down hill since 1972...

Totally agreed, I mentioned in earlier post its our duty to help pay for certain things. However, IMO, transport, production of steel and coal are not on that list. They should be run under premise of profit and loss. If a service between 2 destinations is not profitable, it means insufficient...

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For folk supporting nationalisation... If a private company cant make an item profitably what makes you think government can do so? And If neither can produce it at a profit why is it being made? When its made at a loss its a service to the country. If we decide the cost is worth paying, well...

Looks like we have 3 voters for Corbyn then. He, s the only one who will nationalise anything, he wont have investment to do anything properly and whatever he nationalises will go even further down pan with both the poor organisation we, d put to control it and the stigma attached by public...

I suggested no such thing. You made it up. I, m saying nationalising industry will not work and we know all the reasons why. We, ve been there before.

Its a skill of yours to be able to argue whilst sat on the fence. Are you for or against nationalisation? Your comments as normal are adversarial for sake of arguing. The reasons behind the abstract failure of virtually every nationalised industry in UK are varied but the common one is human...

For the blackened boiled eggs, rude porters, lazy clerks and sleeping shift workers in hideouts, not to mention the massive pilfering endemic in all nationalised industry. Why not? BR, BS, Coal Industry and Car were all forms of sophisticated unemployment when under government control. Would...

I totally agree. However Corbyn has demonstrated a complete lack of everything. Besides, I was replying to comment accusing VC of being thick. As I said, at side of Corbyn and Abbot he, s a genius. His and his parties recent success has pointed out Corbyn's failures. We all like to moan and...

Love it. Brilliant. Just say it as you see it.

Yep, Tillson is back..

Et tu Brute.. Un autre temps... (ok, French and Latin mixed up, both foreign) There must be cheap offers on condescension, there, s plenty about. This thread is awash with it.