Tonaro/Panniers that fit.

[scarrabri]

Hi,i was going to test ride my beautiful Tonaro Bighit today,but its raining so i did not get a full test ,so thought i would have a go at fitting my Avenir rear rack bag 10/20 ltr panniers and showing my Tonaro BIGHIT off at the same time ,
i am sorry but i cant get the pics to go in to the Gallery,so i will have to put folk to bit of trouble and put them here

The panniers fitted like a dream and keep well clear of the wheels,you can remove the battery compleat with panniers in seconds ,or leave tha battery on and take the Avenir by its self,so easy.

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There is two drop down bags ,one on each side,and when not in use fold up and zipped ,very very neat.



Theres quite a bit of storage space,for my musical instruments as you can see

Now for the Tonaro Bighit from powerpedals,they should have been called
POWER TO THE PEOPLE ,because the small ride that i did manage was up a huge hill in stoke on trent ,the sort that makes you dizzy when you stand at the top,it flew up with a gentle no effort pedal,totaly amazing ,and its that quite i cant tell if the motors on,i will write more when i have used it a little bit more .

A BIGHIT FOR TONARO AND POWERPEDALS, thanks Phil.

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best wishes Brian. ps power to the people ride on.

 

[Oiseaux]

Look forward to hearing about the test ride scarrabri. Can you take a larger photo photo from the side showing all the bike and the bags please.

 

[scarrabri]

Look forward to hearing about the test ride scarrabri. Can you take a larger photo photo from the side showing all the bike and the bags please.

Hi i will try to get a better pic if the rain holds off ,only it is difficult to take a good shot indoors,as its only a small flat lol maybe tomorrow,best wishes Brian

 

[scarrabri]

this may be a better pic

 

[Jon]

I do like the style of that bike, i like how its a full suspension bike. What i dont get though is its weight. Its 5kg heavier than my bike and mine has a bigger ah battery.

Which hill was it you went up that was a killer?

 

[scarrabri]

Hi jon ,and yes it is a little heavy, if you know stoke there is a computer shop on the corner of the street im not sure of the name of the street ,not far from iceland super market, its increadably steep ,my 650cc campervan just about makes it lol i dont go up it very often,best wishes Brian.

 

[Jon]

Yes i know the one, Penkhull New Road my Mum used to run the Nursery thats near the top. That really is a killer in the winter people wont go down it either in a car or on foot because its so steep. Do you have a throttle?

 

[scarrabri]

Hi Jon yes it is Penkhull new road ,i had to stop half way up in my Romahome for a Royal mail van ,and i had a devil of a time getting going ,and i dont think my other electric bike ,the Thompson euro classic 2 which is hub driven would stand a ghosts chance of climbing up that one,whilst my Bighit being crank driven seems awesome on a hill ,with loads of pulling power,and yes it does have a throtle, it also has three power settings

The weight of 29kg is made up of the huge frame which is like a work of art increadably solid looking with a mat black kind of finnish,
the Gears: SHIMANO Acera 8 speeds are very smooth and have a nice feel as they pass through the gears, the Zoom adjustable suspension gives a beautiful ride only let down by a seat that maybe one has to get used too ,or like myself i changed it for a CANYON DELUXE BIKE CYCLE LARGE GEL SADDLE SEAT which is real cool ,
The disc brakes,back and front are outstanding and what you would expect for a powerful heavy bike .like i said i have to test ride it some more,but my first thoughts on the Tonaro Bighit is

she looks beautiful and designed from the ground up as a real contender for best electric bike award,
she handles well ,with performace to match and very affordable,time will tell how good she really is ,there has been no cutting costs on the production of this bike,even the battery sits in a cradle at the rear end
looking the smartest set up i have ever seen,and so easy to remove,anyways thats all for now ,my very best wishes Brian.

 

[kitchenman]

Re: "yes it does have a throtle" - before you say anything Jon .. yes - I have just updated the spreadsheet!

 

[Jon]

Re: "yes it does have a throtle" - before you say anything Jon .. yes - I have just updated the spreadsheet!

I didnt say a thing

Hi Jon yes it is Penkhull new road ,i had to stop half way up in my Romahome for a Royal mail van ,and i had a devil of a time getting going ,and i dont think my other electric bike ,the Thompson euro classic 2 which is hub driven would stand a ghosts chance of climbing up that one,whilst my Bighit being crank driven seems awesome on a hill ,with loads of pulling power,and yes it does have a throtle, it also has three power settings

The weight of 29kg is made up of the huge frame which is like a work of art increadably solid looking with a mat black kind of finnish,
the Gears: SHIMANO Acera 8 speeds are very smooth and have a nice feel as they pass through the gears, the Zoom adjustable suspension gives a beautiful ride only let down by a seat that maybe one has to get used too ,or like myself i changed it for a CANYON DELUXE BIKE CYCLE LARGE GEL SADDLE SEAT which is real cool ,
The disc brakes,back and front are outstanding and what you would expect for a powerful heavy bike .like i said i have to test ride it some more,but my first thoughts on the Tonaro Bighit is

she looks beautiful and designed from the ground up as a real contender for best electric bike award,
she handles well ,with performace to match and very affordable,time will tell how good she really is ,there has been no cutting costs on the production of this bike,even the battery sits in a cradle at the rear end
looking the smartest set up i have ever seen,and so easy to remove,anyways thats all for now ,my very best wishes Brian.

Hi Brian

I dont want to dis your bike Brian, but if it was really designed from the ground up then 29kg is unacceptable in weight and thats a flaw. I agree with you on the looks but i do think they have cut costs. I cant comment on the crank drive system as ive never had or owned one but the set up of the motor looks quite tidy my only concern would be the height of the battery weight as this would throw the bike off balance on tight corners. By the looks of it this bike is designed to be used on and off road with it having full suspension and i would question whether it could handle some of the tighter off road paths. Whether its something that you intend to do is not really the question its more of where the manufacturer is aiming its bike at. Ideally weight should be kept centre and low as proved in any sport using external power sources (anything other than the human body).

The Haibike setup is a full suspension and have a good idea yes its loads more expensive but if you didnt use the expensive parts and swapped then for what you have i bet the prices wouldnt be too far off.

Have you managed to find some panniers that fit yet?

 

[scarrabri]

Hi Jon ,to a point you are correct,about the the battery,but it is a 36v 10ah lithium polymer battery,the weight is barely noticable,and i dont think it will cause too much of a problem for me,the amount of off road use wont amount to much,but i still need to use it for a while, Some one described the zoom front suspenshion as being like a pogo lol again the bike gives a lovelly ride,it does not jump up and down and is fully ajustable,to suit all needs,again apart from lifting the bike why is there so much talk of weight on this forum, if you look for a Tonaro Bighit Video on this forum i have just posted ,you will have more insight in to heavy by the beautiful post by Blew it,or Bob,he showed how to have fun with his wonderful bikes,
as you read the words he wrote,he did not look for fast, light, where,s the battery going ,is it a hub,is it the right shade of blue ,no he looked for fun,and the beautiful surroundings he came across ,all for free,maybe we should remember this ,because when i mount my Tonaro Bighit i sure do,good to talk about it my friend,my very best wishes to you,Brian,ps the video shows the panniers,but not sure they will do.

 

[Jon]

Realistically i cant see the front suspension being much of an issue, full dampening really is only needed for full downhill courses. Then the price jumps up quite a bit.

My suspension isnt adjustable or locakble and is fine for loose tracks and courses. I did attack some more aggressive tracks and it coped i was more concerned with the rigid back end than the front so i think a pogo stick is an unfair comparison.

I think weight is talked about alot because with added weight comes reduced performance and handling. I know i would only buy a bike lighter than my 22/23kg in the future because i need to go up some steps and through bike gates plus my lower back is not as strong as the rest of me.

 

[mike killay]

I have an Enduro which is a Bighit without rear suspension. I think that in reality these are commuter/tourer bikes, but because fashion is so important these days, the manufacturer has gone for a quasi off road style, rather like the Landrover Freelander.
I am absolutely delighted with my Enduro. In the late 1950's I owned a cyclemaster. It had a bit more power but no gears. I have tested the Enduro on throttle only on a local hill that I could climb on throttle only with the cyclemaster. Much the same result only the Enduro was a bit slower. When it comes to really steep 20% hills, the Enduro has climbed them in first gear with hard, but not standing on the pedals, pedalling. The cyclemaster with fixed engine and pedal gear could not do this.

 

[scarrabri]

Hi
mike killay
I too nearly went for the Enduro,but eventualy settled for the Bighit with full suspension,and after many miles of use ,she goes from strenght to strenght,and it is very hard to fault her ,i have not come across a hill where she refuses to climb,comfort is beyond question,the only items i have changed are the pedals,and the seat ,and i have put the original one back on and got used to it ,infact the only weekest link is me ,proud owner of the Tonaro Bighit ,best wishes Brian,ps off to Talacre North wales sunday for a week to try the 34 milecycle track out .

 

[steveindenmark]

I have the Tonaro Enduro and I chose it for the modern looks as opposed to the sit up and beg bikes. I did not need the mid suspension like the Bighit has and the Enduro is 2kg lighter than the Bighit with the same power unit.

I have had it 2 weeks now and it is great going along the forest and country tracks I ride. I am 53 and am a fit cyclist. My usual ride was on my Trek Lexa SL road bike on my 44km round trip commute to work every day.

I have discovered quickly not to use the throttle as it eats battery power. I also do not use level 1 assist because I can pedal the bike as a normal bike without. I use level 2 and occasionally level 3. When I don`t need power I switch it off. I have found the cycling so much easier and as Jannie tells me "It is not like cycling at all".

Up to now I have managed to ride 60km in one go without needing to recharge. I ended with 2 lights showing.

As for panniers (The original post) I bought a seat post luggage rack and put my ortilebs on there. It works fine but the screw on the battery case rubs the back of the bag but I have another plan in mind which I will post later.

Steve

 

[scarrabri]

I have the Tonaro Enduro and I chose it for the modern looks as opposed to the sit up and beg bikes. I did not need the mid suspension like the Bighit has and the Enduro is 2kg lighter than the Bighit with the same power unit.

I have had it 2 weeks now and it is great going along the forest and country tracks I ride. I am 53 and am a fit cyclist. My usual ride was on my Trek Lexa SL road bike on my 44km round trip commute to work every day.

I have discovered quickly not to use the throttle as it eats battery power. I also do not use level 1 assist because I can pedal the bike as a normal bike without. I use level 2 and occasionally level 3. When I don`t need power I switch it off. I have found the cycling so much easier and as Jannie tells me "It is not like cycling at all".

Up to now I have managed to ride 60km in one go without needing to recharge. I ended with 2 lights showing.

As for panniers (The original post) I bought a seat post luggage rack and put my ortilebs on there. It works fine but the screw on the battery case rubs the back of the bag but I have another plan in mind which I will post later.

Steve

Hi Steve ,i have just bought the Halfords Topeak Beam Rack ,very similar to what you have used ,but there were side frames with it ,and all i had to do was remove the centre screw and bend the two side frames ,and they fit like a glove ,and so easy to remove ,sorry i have not included any pics yet ,but my cycle is packed in the Romahome campervan and i am heading for my holidays,bye for now Brian.