Brand New Sky

Beach

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Photo courtesy of my new eBike. Taken Fri 17th. Beach cottage, marked in red, is 2 miles away.

Hiya.

Each morning, wherever we are on this spinning rock, nature delivers us a brand new sky and we have an opportunity, maybe even an obligation, to make the very best of such a gift.

Sure. We may not always see the world that way but each of us have interests, passions or objectives to fulfill, even if that thing called life sometimes gets in our way or threatens to stall or halt our immediate plans or aspirations every now and again.

Holding a dream or goal or some obscure desire to accomplish something, (aside from some hard wired instinct of nature), may be considered to be a unique human characteristic, though perhaps it is the raw, driving force in every living thing on Earth.

Whatever it is, it is fantastic when such things are realised.

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I've recently taken delivery of an eBike ... to address and manifest some particular dreams of my own ... and can say that the experience, within the last 48 hrs, has profoundly exceeded and eclipsed all of my imagined expectations of actually owning and utilising such a machine.

I don't intend to reveal the make or model of my particular electric steed this very moment but would, instead, like to invite you to guess what sort of machine I chose ... based on my specific, particular location and requirements.

Here is the remit.

a) I always intended to buy a secondhand machine.
b) I didn't want to be liberated from having to exercise or exert myself. (Health wise, the concept of effortless, non physical, human input goes against my objectives).
c) I needed a machine with good torque and hill climbing characteristics. (I live in West Dorset).
d) I'm 6ft. BMI 26. That's a fit but still dead weight of 15 stone!
e) I wanted spare parts to be attainable. (I planned to avoid generic, Chinese brands).
f) Sealed lead batteries would be fine.
g) My budget would be £300 max.

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Yesterday, the machine took me to the very location that inspired me to buy it. A wild, clifftop venue less than 2 miles from home ... but, at 157m, (and off road), one of the highest promontories along the whole South coast of England.

Up extreme inclines, through rain sodden, muddy fields, within a few hours of the purchase, the machine had already rewarded me with incredible views of my Jurassic coastline.

I realised the dream of owning such a bike and was rewarded with a 20 mile vision of Chesil beach arcing away to the East, a vision of the whole of Lyme bay to the South and a spectacular, complete picture of the whole of my own county spreading out beyond and behind me.

Below, I noted the beach and rocks where I catch bass out of the surf and in the mid distance, just a couple of miles away, I was able to soak up the rugged beauty of my own local beach where I fish and metal detect regularly.

I photographed the vision for posterity. (Above).

The machine passed every test. It took me to my most favourite raw, off road cliff top location.

... and this evening, as an experiment, I rode from Beach cottage, (home), to the resort and harbour, (a mile from here), and back again, without barely pedaling at all... just to test the actual motor.

In the spring and summer, I shall be setting the alarm for an hour before sunrise, zapping down the bay to catch a half dozen mackerel and returning home before most of the town has even awoke.
 
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Now that we know where you live, we'll expect at least a cup of tea when we drop in. Expect us when the weather improves a bit. We'll try and make it soon because we don't want to get there only to find that the approaching crumbling cliffs have already washed your house away in a storm.

I'm glad you're enjoying you new bike, but I can't figure out what it is. I need more clues.
 

Geebee

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I think if the coast line drops away enough to include the marked cottage England will have shrunk by a noticable amount :)
Funny I watched a show on telly last night about house being lost to the sea side erosion in England.

Nice photo Beach.
 

Beach

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First, a reply to d8veh

Hello. d8veh,

A big thank you for kicking off my communication on Pedelecs. I'm a veteran of internet forums but it is always satisfying to make initial contact with the denizens of any new virtual watering hole.

To address your first comment ...

My location is Paradise ... and I guard and watch over my own personal West Dorset sanctuary with a passion you might not even comprehend! My best and closest friends know not to surprise me with unannounced visits to my home so the idea of strangers seeking me out is not one that will ever appeal or happen.

That said, my town and my coast is probably one of the most intriguing locations anyone might care to visit so, sure, keep an eye on any of my future posts, (should I choose to stay here), and, just maybe I'll reveal the best off road routes to investigate and visit across the jewel that is West Dorset.

Prehistoric Dorset. Ancient Dorset. Medieval Dorset, Smuggler's Dorset. Tourist Dorset.

Obviously, the above comment means little to anyone outside pedelec range of West Dorset but this is an eBike forum so, for those in the South, I hope and anticipate that my local knowledge could or might be of some worth if presented here.

Other thoughts

Me? I'm more interested in living, experiencing and doing pedelec stuff rather than sitting on my butt pontificating about the technicalities of the pursuit. However, as someone who has read Pedelec threads for years, I wonder at some things.

I mean, sure, folk post or respond to hundreds, (or thousands), of threads but ... what does that mean?

Am I the only one to observe some irony in the above comment. I mean. where do persistent posters find the time to actually ride their machines?

No matter. This is my first post so I guess such mysteries can wait.

Just appreciate ...

You might be a regular, frequent or prolific poster but that doesn't make you immune from my inquiring mind.

I've already read lots of FANTASTIC threads here at Pedelecs ... but have also read a few shamefully DIRE threads knocking new members.

No big deal. Every forum on the planet does it and it seems to be a right of passage that everyone is expected to go through.

Just saying.

I'm not a troll or someone seeking conflict. Rather. I'm new to our fabulous pursuit and keen to engage the Pedelec mind.

Anyway. To me, the whole purpose and point of owning and utilising an eBike is to express, live and experience life ... juxtaposed, adjacent and just a bit left field of ... the ordinary.

I went to the seaside today ... it cost me less than 2p. :)

When I did the same thing in my Lexus LS400 limousine, it cost me more than a taxi fare. :-(

You can't comprehend how amazing I feel when I look at 'My Little Pony'. I call her a pony because my machine has, (apparently), the power of 2/3rd of one horsepower!

I utterly. utterly love her!

She has a name now ... but I'm not revealing that until I post a thread connected with eBike security, satellite GPS and artificial intelligence.

Your second question? Or rather your request for more clues?

I'll address that after I have responded to GeeBee's post.

Thanks for your comments, d8veh.

Appreciated.

Beach
 
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Beach

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Hi Geebee,

Thank you so much for responding. It is lovely to feel that my carefully crafted words have been acknowledged.

Sure. Yes. Coastal erosion is major news these days ... and also a cue to allow me to relate the following.

I was becoming a bit rich and famous, (at the time back in the late 80's), and my patented Gravity Technology had earned me enough money to consider cash purchasing a quite extra-ordinary piece of real estate right here in West Dorset and right close to the sea.

I mean within a stones throw of the sea ... like just 20 paces away!

It wasn't a titchy, garden shed sized property, (or beach hut), of the type seen on more famous tourist beaches. It was a regular, full sized one bedroom wooden chalet affair that just about qualified being called an actual house.

A house where I could have rigged up a beachcaster rod and actually cast out into the ocean ... from the front garden!

Oh. And it wasn't in some suburban area either. Rather, it was a mile down the coast, on the grass looking out over the near deserted beach of Eype, the idyllic location that lies directly below the headland from where the photos in this thread come from.

The price then?

£20,000.

But ... a lease only ... for the actual fabric of the wooden structure.

In other words, I would be 'buying' just the structure .... and, as an agreement dictated, would be expected to pay £1000 per year to maintain, rent or secure ... the actual land or dirt or space it occupied!

This was back in 1998 ... and though I had real cash right then to offer, I declined the purchase.

I hadn't discovered or appreciated the landscape back then.

Today? ... Well ... Maybe the reason I love the first place I went on my newly acquired eBike was because ...

I now realise I might have actually OWNED a chunk of the most special, raw, wild part of West Dorset that I choose to walk, cycle or eBike to these days!

Yeah. Just looking up the page at the numerics that radiate £20,000, makes me a bit jittery and regretful.

Obviously, with hindsight, it would have been a fantastic deal but ... well ,,,

OK. Sure. I don't live in that actual dwelling but ... from Beach cottage, thanks to my newly acquired eBike, it remains a destination only 10 minutes from home.

You like the photo?

Goodness. You should actually see the place in real life!

And better still, appreciate the journey from 'The Beacon' at the cliffs highest point all the way back into town ... being able to coast downhill just about all the way.

I have zillions of internet friends. (I have an army of real friends too) but ... I've related my adventured on the cliffs to online folk so many times, and shared the fact that I can 'roll' from the top of the beacon, (150m high), right back down to my quirky little town ... without hardly touching the pedals ... and I'm talking about a regular, normal bike, not an eBike.

As I do that ... and allow gravity to bring me home, I always thing of eFriends working in offices in London or other friends toiling at whatever they do ... and I say to myself ... "If I could bottle this experience" or "If I could let others see and feel and experience that I feel" in viewing the spectacular landscape ...

Well. I don't suppose I can ...

But I can write about it ...

I can share the experience ...

Online ...

A bit like now.

Cheers Geebee. Thanks for contributing.
 
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Beach

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Back to d8veh's request for more clues regarding my choice of eBike.
http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/members/d8veh.4366/
The question is actually the perfect foil to allow me to comment upon perceptions of what an electric bike is ... or should be.


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I understand forum culture. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that any online community can radiate or share ... as a font of expert knowledge, general guidance or as a kind of social glue to bring folk together.

I don't, however, appreciate the views of folk who dismiss or write off a particular genre or brand of machine purely because they, themselves, have deemed it fails to meet their own expectations.

The critique is meaningless. Such folk are not privy to the needs or aspirations of others. They are merely engaging in, what I would have to label as, eBike snobbery.

Sure. I made an earlier comment about avoiding 'generic Chinese eBikes' but that was in reference to a practical issue regarding sourcing parts, not labeling a type or make of eBike inferior.

I thought, in presenting my requirements and needs, eBike wise, that my eventual choice might have been quite obvious ... but that choice, my choice, possibly fell into the niche of being shunned here on this forum.

I suppose that qualifies as a clue regarding the choice I eventually made,

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Make no mistake, I engineered this original post to showcase exactly this issue. The issue being ... some folk pedal their keyboard way more than pedaling their pedelecs.

Truth is ... it is not the remit or obligation for anyone here to offer thumbs up or thumbs down to a particular type or brand of machine.

A commuter's needs will be different that a recreational eBiker. An off road enthusiast's needs will be different than a shopper's requirements. A retired person's goals may be different than a teenagers aspirations.

The eBike business community here would echo my observations.

An electric bike is a fabulous resource to utilise.

It should be a seamless extension of its owners dreams and aspirations to the point where using or riding it should seem and feel a natural extension of daily life ... just the same way folk hop into and drive their cars.

Would it seem appropriate to tut tut and chastise someone for driving a Toyota rather than driving a Ford?

No. Of course not.

As my friend Barry White said, "Different strokes for different folks".

OK. A final clue as to my determined choice of eBike? (Now realised).

This robust Land Rover of an electric bicycle was promoted and marketed from a company based in the Southern part of England.

If you don't get that clue ... well ...

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Thanks for responding.

Your forum seems a bit quiet but ... it is Sunday now so maybe some of you will pop up during the day.

Nite nite.

Over and out.

Beach
 
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Hi Beach,

Welcome to the forum.

Nice to read your well crafted and intriguing posts.

I don't know what you are on, but I want a bottle of it when you have figured out how to do it.
 

Alan Quay

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Hi Beach, welcome to the forum.

I'm guessing you have a Powabyke, probably one of the older models with the battery along the twin crossbar? Just a guess.
 

Beach

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Ha ha.

Thanks Cyclezee. :)

You just won't believe it.

I mean ... I had so many amazing plans, you know, for when I actually got my eBike?


Her name is EVA. I call her Eva because I have a smartphone based personal assistant, (superior to iphone's SIRI), and, mated with an app called 'MapMyRide' on my Android phone, Eva, (my virtual smartphone assistant), logs and records my adventures!

And, thanks to the genius of Google, she talks, (and understands me), using a posh, plum proper English voice! (I had to pay extra for that but it's kind of cool!)

When I go out, Eva, (the personal assistant), talks to me, telling me how I am doing, how many miles I have ridden and ... if a text message comes in via my smartphone, vocally relays the message ... and even asks me if I want to reply to the message.

I'm cycling along, Eva reads out the message and then asks me, "Beach. Do you wish to respond?"

I can verbally utter "No" (while I am happily zapping along), or say "Yes" ... in which case whatever I say is transformed into a text based reply ... and sent!

I've had Eva, the Android virtual assistant, on my phone for several months but now I've got the eBike and "MapMyRide", I've kind of decided that Eva the Android personal assistant is part of the eBike experiment ... hence my bike is now ... EVA!


Yeah. Let's run that back just one more time.

My eBike is intelligent. It has the computing power to tell me my speed in MPH, produce a map of where I have traveled and talks to me when I have mail, a phone call or some meeting I need to attend.

Also, (this is mental) ... I have another smartphone, (given to me by a friend), that is hidden on Eva, (the eBike).

When I go to Morrisons to do some shopping, I 'arm' the spare phone and a satellite gets a lock on it.

It means that, if Eva, (the eBike) was moved or stolen, I get an instant phone call to my regular smartphone ... and I can track wherever the bike goes in real time.

Just this evening, (well, last evening), I printed out a label stating, "INTERNET TRACKING ENABLED" ... along with a sentence stating "This machine is protected with smartphone, internet and WiFi security" ... and I used my hot laminator thing to produce the business card warning sign - which I then cellotaped to the eBike.

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You want some of what I've got?

I'll say it now ... really quick.

I was blissfully happy in love and married for 20 years ... until I invented something quite extra-ordinary.

I got a bit famous, did all the celebrity thing but ... when I looked up, my happy, lovely, blissful marriage was over! :-(

I cracked up, (mental health stuff), then my body gave me a DVT, (Google it), and, after several years repairing and rebuilding, I promised myself I'd never let business or stress or fuss or anything ever bring me down again.

I'm poor these days ... but, I swear, you will not find a more content human being on this planet.

And the most amazing thing?

I know I've healed because ... what I've just told you took only a paragraph!

Wind back six or seven years and it might have taken a dozen pages!

You can have some of what I've got ... simply by letting go and realising that most of the stuff we fret about ... just isn't worth the adrenalin!

Thanks for the lovely comment.

Chris :)
 

Beach

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Hi Beach, welcome to the forum.

I'm guessing you have a Powabyke, probably one of the older models with the battery along the twin crossbar? Just a guess.
Thank you for the welcome, Mike.

Yes. Correct.

Powabyke Euro ... in pristine condition.

The important thing to bear in mind is that, partly by trawling this very site over the last several months, I kind of organically came to the decision that the Euro would be a good choice to assist me with the hills of West Dorset.

Could have bought any number of machines off of eBay or Gumtree but ... reading the comments on this very site ... I came to learn that PowaByke would deliver the torque and grunt to meet my specific needs.

Average price of a decent Powabyke Euro on eBay?

They tend to sell for around the £300 mark.

I got mine from an elderly gent who had looked after the machine lovingly since new.

I bought it for ... £150.

But that is not the whole story.

The gent also gave me some spares.

Powabyke front wheel, (Motor)
Powabyke back wheel.

Both wheels with kevlar tyres.

Plus ... spare battery pack complete with batteries that have not yet died!

The other batteries in the actual bike being about a year old.

All that, Mike, for £150.

And she is fantastic. Just as many, if not most of you folk on here, said she would be.

And sure. The big battery pack makes the machine a bit quirky looking, (though the whole pub I frequent thinks she is amazing), ... but, I'm a bit quirky also, (and I'm an inventor), so ... Ha ha!

Sure. I'm quite defensive but ... I mean, the machine performs fabulously, and more importantly, she meets and exceeds all of my personal requirements.

I live ONE MILE from Chesil beach, the fabulous Jurassic Coast.

I have some of the most fantastic scenery and some of the best sea fishing spots just a few minutes away.

You can't imagine the fun and adventures me and Eva are going to have! :)
 

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Is this what you invented?:)
Ha ha, very funny, DC.

No ... but I guess the concept isn't quite so wacky these days!

Maybe, in about 60 or 70 years, we'll start to feel the discomfort of having to support the billions of us ... with oil running out ... and then we'll start to hurt.

Folk talk about 'alternative green power' taking over but there is no way on this Earth that any other current commodity can deliver the 600 'man hours' of labour that 1 gallon of that rich black treacle delivers!

I'm feeling quite smug though. Apparently, Eva will deliver me 20 - 30 miles on about 5 pence of electricity.
 

Alan Quay

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I have heard good things about the Powabyke, and they look pretty robust. SLA's can be replaced for about £100 when you need to, but I would consider going to Li-ion at that point, as it works out cheaper in the end if you are using it a lot. (more charge cycles)

I can well imagine the fun you will have, as I live within a few miles of the Jurassic coast myself.
 

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Here she is. (I actually took these photos with the intention of presenting them on this forum).

Is that a tidy PowaByke or what?

And just look. She carried me the 500ft uphill ... through rain sodden fields and all!

And you see the beach below?

I catch bass and mackerel from that shore ... and the cliffs below are teeming with giant starfish fossils and similar 400 million year old 'stuff'.
 

D C

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Beach,
your posts are brilliant and a breath of fresh air.
Keep up the good work!
 

Beach

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I should call you "Neighbour", John! :)

Yep. The machine is perfect for me. Meets all of my particular requirements.

The test I did by just throttling to West Bay, the harbour and back, without offering or helping to pedal was one experiment but I plan to venture along Chesil beach to a location called West Bexington, a fab sea fishing venue ... in fact, one of the best in the country.

I caught a 12lb 9 oz cod there, (38" long), when I was a boy!

The beach at Abbotsbury, a mile further on, (about 8 miles from Beach cottage), is more of a challenge though.

To go by road involves riding up and all the way down a huge hill ... but there is a crumbled concrete tank track between Bexington and Abbotsbury running parallel with the beach, (laid down in WW2), so I may attempt to avoid the huge hill by, instead, navigating the tank tracks at sea level get to Abbotsbury.

And that is the point ...

These things are easy by car ... but the whole idea of doing stuff 'off road', well, that was always part of the dream of owning and using an eBike.

I work for myself. That means I can drop everything and head to the beach just as soon as the word goes out that the vast shoals of mackerel are hitting the beach.
 

Beach

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Beach,
your posts are brilliant and a breath of fresh air.
Keep up the good work!
That's lovely of you to say, DC. Thank you. :)

I do have quite a list of topics and threads I have wanted to present ... but had been unsure just how well my particular style of communication might go down.

I'm an old hand at internet rhetoric ... though none of us can expect to cater for all tastes so ...

DC. I really appreciate your comments.

And thanks, d8veh, Geebee, Cyclezee, and Mike also, for contributing to and sharing my Brand New Sky.

Beach
 

Kenny

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Terrific Posts Beach. A real breath of fresh air on the Forum.

Your story and wonderfully crafted words brightened up my rainy sunday morning.
 

flecc

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where do persistent posters find the time to actually ride their machines?
I hadn't seen this before, but as someone with nearly 26,000 posts in this forum it calls for a reply.

The answer is easily. My past circa ten posts plus a day took very little time and were often widely spaced and scattered as my present somewhat lower rate is. I'm on record in here as completing over 3000 miles on one e-bike in a six month period of intensive battery testing for a manufacturer during one of my most frequent posting periods.

An examination of my post timing is revealing too, a batch can sometimes be seen early in a day with a further batch as late as late evening or even the early hours at times when I wouldn't be riding anyway. No posts whatsoever between noon and the end of the afternoon is commonplace.

And I even find time to spend in your beloved Dorset visiting my brother or niece at such places as Moigne Combe and Corfe Castle using Yalbury Cottage Hotel, Kemps Country House Hotel or Mortons House Hotel, accompanied by my folding eZee Quando based e-bike of course.

Hopefully this shows there is not necessarily any relationship between posting rates and e-cycling rates. And I haven't even mentioned my main interest!
 
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The test I did by just throttling to West Bay, the harbour and back, without offering or helping to pedal was one experiment but I plan to venture along Chesil beach to a location called West Bexington, a fab sea fishing venue ... in fact, one of the best in the country.

I caught a 12lb 9 oz cod there, (38" long), when I was a boy!

And that is the point ...
Never mind the tea. I'll be bringing my rods. I might be staying a while.

I like those old Powabykes. I used to recommend them for hill-climbing on limited budgets, but nobody ever took any notice. I'd more or less forgotton about them because you don't see so many now. I keep looking out for a cheap one near me because I want to have a go at hot-rodding one -maybe for the Bristol World Championships if they do it again this year.

Regarding frquent posters using their bikes:
I've averaged about 2500 miles a year since I started ebiking. I have a target of 3560 miles this year, which is an average of 10 miles a day, every day. Unless I go somewhere special, I don't post details of my journeys. I use my bike nearly every day for shopping and nearly all journeys less than 20 miles.

As well as riding bikes, I build about three or more a year, plus lots of rebuilding to test equipment etc.
 
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